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1 posted on 05/22/2006 7:58:13 AM PDT by NinoFan
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BULL$H!T! They come into my home unannounced and will be promptly greeted with a .308 warning shot. Any further attempts will be met with extreme resistance. You don't knock down the door of my home and expect me to be placid!


2 posted on 05/22/2006 7:59:55 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / Molwn Labe!)
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Wouldn't this same reasoning justify cops walking in and cofiscating firearms, like occured in the immediate aftermath of Katrina in NO?


13 posted on 05/22/2006 8:09:11 AM PDT by joebuck
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I would be inclined to encourage people to feel free to shoot someone bearing a gun bashing through someone's front door unannounced.


15 posted on 05/22/2006 8:10:01 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court reaffirmed Monday that police can enter homes in emergencies without knocking or announcing their presence.

I thought this was already covered under proable cause. At the same time, do a home invasion on my house and Mr 454 is going go through you, your body armor, the front wall and probably the car you drove up in.

18 posted on 05/22/2006 8:20:05 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (The social contract is breaking down.)
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We'll have to fight the abuses, but this was the only decision that could be made.

The police have to do many things to successfully conduct their duties.

We, on the other hand will always be confronted with abuses and heavy handedness by some of them.

The nature of policing can't change, it is pretty much fixed for all time, it will always require constant vigilance by an involved citizenry, and good internal leadership, within the departments.


23 posted on 05/22/2006 8:29:15 AM PDT by ansel12
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If one can now be charged with disorderly conduct and intoxication taking place inside their home, what refuge is there?


38 posted on 05/22/2006 9:05:56 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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"The role of a peace officer includes preventing violence and restoring order, not simply rendering first aid to casualties; an officer is not like a boxing (or hockey) referee, poised to stop a bout only if it becomes too one-sided," Roberts wrote.

And yet they have no legal obligation to protect you. Nice.

44 posted on 05/22/2006 9:12:50 AM PDT by Wolfie
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Maybe the kid was deserving of a royal A$$kicking. Who knows what he was doing.


52 posted on 05/22/2006 9:23:29 AM PDT by Sarajevo
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In a separate opinion, Justice John Paul Stevens said that Utah courts could still find that the police entry was unreasonable under Utah's Constitution. He called it "an odd flyspeck of a case," and said he was unsure why courts had spent so much time on a matter involving minor offenses.

He just wasted a tree writing his worthless concurring opinion that Utah's courts could apply Utah's Constitution. Ya think?

57 posted on 05/22/2006 9:53:57 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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OK,, why didn't the police start screaming at these two geniuses that were fighting as they attempted to gain entry?? Inside a closed house or not, it would have closed the legal loophole.

Did the police think they would gain some form of advantage over the combatants if they remained stealth?

Their objective, as put forth in this article, was to stop a fight. There are more ways to stop a fight then there are food recipes with eggs. These clowns with badges decided their best and safest way to confront this problem was simply taught to them via the WOD. No knock, bust in, take charge, confiscate everything, hand out misdeameanors.

Are we speaking German yet?


63 posted on 05/22/2006 10:16:18 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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how is this any different than previous rulings about
exigent circumstances and a crime in plain view?

seems like a no-brainer.

when you need to beat your wife like a gubmint mule (Allah be praised) , close the curtains.


64 posted on 05/22/2006 10:23:42 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!)
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Oh for Pete's sake! Did the reporter actually read the case, or did she just copy the ACLU press release?

There was a fight going on, one of the participants was spitting up blood, and the officers announced themselves prior to entry, but couldn't be heard over the noise of the fight. If they'd stayed outside, and the injured kid had gotten killed, you can bet the media would be crying "why didn't they do something?"

73 posted on 05/22/2006 10:42:39 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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What defines an "emergency"???

Where are the standards?


82 posted on 05/22/2006 6:43:04 PM PDT by REP200 (Conservative and Proud)
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