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To: wcdukenfield

How did President Bush and Karl Rove force the immigration issue to its current frenzy? As I recall it was the Minute Men and other activists getting high profiled that started this current round of attention to illegal immigrants. President Bush is now faulted for responding and trying to get something done. Since this posting is probably only among the first that will be posted today demanding or condemning or providing just plain Bush bashing opportunities, I will have a nice day in the beautiful outdoors. Sure beats being plopped at a computer reading the same posters hopping from thread to thread saying the same old things to one another. Making sure that every thread is turned into their own anti immigration chat room. This is getting very, very, old and so unproductive. The sincerity of the pundit class can be gaged thru the lens of self interest and I am not overly impressed with any of them. That goes for the talking heads as well. When I read on the bash Bush threads the caustic references to the 'sheeple', it becomes obvious that there is more than one set who fit that category. Nothing that President Bush does on the immigration matter, or the illegal part of it, will satisfy everybody. The venting against the Pres may be therapeutic but it has become so boring.


43 posted on 05/22/2006 8:30:41 AM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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To: mountainfolk; holdonnow
How did President Bush and Karl Rove force the immigration issue to its current frenzy? As I recall it was the Minute Men and other activists getting high profiled that started this current round of attention to illegal immigrants.

That's a good point, too. The whole premise is off. Hell, wasn't it Levin's good buddy Sean Hannity and the other talkers whoopin' things up? Michelle Malkin, et al. Yeah, now that I think of it, what the hell is Levin talking about? Add to that this:

Apparently Rove and Bush, not to mention McCain, et al, have decided the best approach is to parrot liberals. Therefore, they support making that which is illegal legal, pretend to care about border security, and are spreading around benefits and entitlements.

How does GWB's position now differ from his 2000 position on it? Seems the same to me. And wasn't Rove taken off the job of advising political policy?

46 posted on 05/22/2006 8:47:08 AM PDT by Huck (Hey look, I'm still here.)
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To: mountainfolk

I have believed for a long time that this is why Bush's numbers are "low".

It isn't that the religious nuts are the ones being polled-it's that the normal thinking Republican base and swing-voters have been completely turned off by the religious zealots, the antiimmigration hysterics, and so forth.

The GOP has lost its direction, but that seems to be because they are giving way too much attention to people who don't matter and allowing their issues to be determined for them, rather than setting the agenda.

I also believe there is not strong leadership below the President who are stepping up and helping define and set clear goals, and articulating to the base. People like Pat Robertson and Michelle Malkin have become the mouthpieces for the GOP, and both are extremists who claim to not even be Republican, yet they are being allowed to articulate the tone (hatefilled rhetoric) and agenda of the Republican party.

Thus the low poll numbers for Bush.


51 posted on 05/22/2006 9:32:56 AM PDT by LibWrangler
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To: mountainfolk
As I recall it was the Minute Men and other activists getting high profiled that started this current round of attention to illegal immigrants. President Bush is now faulted for responding and trying to get something done.

Horse - Barn Door - Opps, too late.

78 posted on 05/22/2006 11:49:45 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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