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Mexico Voters Fear Nation on Edge of Chaos
Associated Press ^ | May 17, 2006 | Julie Watson

Posted on 05/21/2006 4:06:24 PM PDT by Larousse2

Mexico Voters Fear Nation on Edge of Chaos

By JULIE WATSON, Associated Press Writer Wed May 17, 6:12 AM ET

Police enraged by the kidnapping of six officers club unarmed detainees. A bloody battle between steelworkers and police leaves two miners dead. Drug lords post the heads of decapitated police on a fence to show who's in charge.

Less than two months before Mexicans elect their next president, many fear the country is teetering on the edge of chaos — a perception that could hurt the ruling National Action Party's chances of keeping the presidency and benefit Mexico's once-powerful Institutional Revolutionary Party, whose candidate has been trailing badly.

Some blame President Vicente Fox for a weak government. Others say rivals are instigating the violence to create that impression, hoping to hurt National Action candidate Felipe Calderon, who has a slight lead in recent polls.

A poll published Friday in Excelsior newspaper found 50 percent of respondents feared the government was on the brink of losing control. The polling company Parametria conducted face-to-face interviews at 1,000 homes across Mexico. The poll had a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

The conflicts are "a warning sign," said Yamel Nares, Parametria's research director.

Security is the top concern for Mexicans, and Fox has struggled to reform Mexico's notoriously corrupt police. Meanwhile, drug-related bloodshed has accelerated, with some cities seeing killings almost daily.

In April, suspected drug lords posted the heads of two police officers on a wall outside a government building where four drug traffickers died in a Jan. 27 shootout with officers in the Pacific resort of Acapulco.

A sign nearby read: "So that you learn to respect."

Last week, Zapatista rebel leader Subcomandante Marcos said Mexico was in a "state of rage," and warned that tensions were similar to those that preceded the Zapatistas' brief armed uprising in January 1994 in the southern state of Chiapas.

He said his group is committed to peace, but many fear his increased public profile — after years of hiding out in the jungle — could foreshadow greater polarization among Mexican voters.

The masked leader said a May 3 clash that left a teenager dead and scores injured in San Salvador Atenco, 15 miles northeast of Mexico City, is an example of the growing tensions.

Marcos has been leading nearly daily demonstrations in the town following the incident, which began when a radical group of townspeople kidnapped and beat six policemen in a dispute over unlicensed flower vendors. Police responded with rage the next day. Television crews captured officers repeatedly beating unarmed protesters, and several detained women alleged officers raped them.

The clash followed another bloody battle between steelworkers and police trying to break up an illegal strike at a plant in Lazaro Cardenas last month. Unions later threatened to shut down the country.

George Grayson, a Mexico expert at the College of William & Mary, said the violence reflects Fox's lack of leadership.

"The state has become much weaker under his watch," Grayson said.

Recent polls show Calderon has overtaken longtime presidential front-runner Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, whom opponents have portrayed as a leftist demagogue similar to Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

But that could change if PRI candidate Roberto Madrazo can convince voters that Mexico was more stable under his party's 71-year reign, which ended with Fox's victory in 2000. Mexican law bars presidents from seeking re-election.

Madrazo has tried to paint himself as the law-and-order candidate — though so far his poll numbers have remained well behind those of Calderon and Lopez Obrador.

"It's not going to help Lopez Obrador who has been associated with the rabble rousers, but Madrazo can come out and say with his party at least Mexico had continued stability," Grayson said.

Gerardo Aranda, a tourism guide in Mexico City, said he won't go back to the PRI, but he doesn't know who he will vote for.

"No one really knows now what could happen next," he said. "All the candidates are bad. ... There is so much anger toward the government, everyone is against everything."


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To: Regulator

"Personally I think it would be easier just to enforce our immigration laws."

ROTFL!

(Like that would ever happen...)


21 posted on 05/21/2006 4:38:00 PM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: Larousse2

"Mexico Voters Fear Nation on Edge of Chaos "

Anyone for a fence/wall or approve of the NG on the border now?


22 posted on 05/21/2006 4:38:22 PM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A. and the Troops who protect her.)
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To: Tall_Texan

One of my CA cousins has suggested to me a similar idea as yours.

Also get their hemp which can be made into many LEGITIMATE products.


23 posted on 05/21/2006 4:38:52 PM PDT by Larousse2 (Sounds just like "The Dear Hilliary Letter"----a seamless web from cradle to grave)
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To: mtbopfuyn

I think I may have heard your quote on one of the "God Father Films?????


24 posted on 05/21/2006 4:41:39 PM PDT by Larousse2 (Sounds just like "The Dear Hilliary Letter"----a seamless web from cradle to grave)
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To: Larousse2

I think you're right, but can you elaborate?


25 posted on 05/21/2006 4:42:40 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Tall_Texan

Would the enviros let us keep drilling for oil there, if we owned it?


26 posted on 05/21/2006 4:43:16 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Regulator

Thank you for your great posting!

Now there's an idea: civil war---coming to a neighborhood near you.

Oh, me!


27 posted on 05/21/2006 4:43:54 PM PDT by Larousse2 (Sounds just like "The Dear Hilliary Letter"----a seamless web from cradle to grave)
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To: Regulator
Unless of course you're advocating some sort of "Reconstruction" period for them where they are deprived of vote and nationality, and are psychologically "reconstructed" to not be themselves.

I wouldn't use those exact terms but that is essentially where I am going. I'd have a roughly 40-year transition period where Mexican would evolve into U.S. voting rights, allowing time for their citizens to be both exposed to the American way of life (for all its pros and cons) and to build up their own economy so there will be less incentive for them to all head north.

Obviously, it would be a huge undertaking but I don't think the results would be as politically damaging as you portray.

28 posted on 05/21/2006 4:45:28 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: Gritty

I know the fence is needed, and I know Israelis know how to build one!

Why don't we have police dogs on the border, such as German Sheppards, Rots, etc.? They're less expensive than the National Guard.


29 posted on 05/21/2006 4:46:53 PM PDT by Larousse2 (Sounds just like "The Dear Hilliary Letter"----a seamless web from cradle to grave)
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To: Tall_Texan
At the risk of hijacking this thread, has anybody given serious thought to simply have the U.S. take over Mexico before Mexico takes over us? I mean, if we can overthrow the Iraqi government half a globe away, why can't we do it to our own neighbor?

As someone who is the son of a Mexican immigrant and with 90% of my relatives being Mexicans living in Mexico (which will come as a surprise to some who've read my immigration posts), believe me, it would be far more trouble than it is worth. Mexico has been so dysfunctional in so many different ways for so long it simply would not be cost effective and would ultimately bankrupt our country.

30 posted on 05/21/2006 4:47:32 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Would the enviros let us keep drilling for oil there, if we owned it?

If I were running it, I'd tell the enviros to butt out.

31 posted on 05/21/2006 4:47:50 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: RetiredArmy

How true it is!

Right in our own backyards.


32 posted on 05/21/2006 4:48:52 PM PDT by Larousse2 (Sounds just like "The Dear Hilliary Letter"----a seamless web from cradle to grave)
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To: Larousse2

I suggest y'all see "Man on Fire" for a big taste of the real Mexico. See all 258 customer reviews..

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005JN0W/103-9304266-1643023?v=glance&n=130


33 posted on 05/21/2006 4:49:26 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Cyropaedia

Do you believe Mexico is so corrupt and lawless that it could not be Americanized with a little stewardship?


34 posted on 05/21/2006 4:49:54 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: Regulator

You really make some very strong arguments.

Thank you so much:-)


35 posted on 05/21/2006 4:51:01 PM PDT by Larousse2 (Sounds just like "The Dear Hilliary Letter"----a seamless web from cradle to grave)
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To: Logical me

I think you are so very, very right!

Thank you for your posting:-)


36 posted on 05/21/2006 4:53:01 PM PDT by Larousse2 (Sounds just like "The Dear Hilliary Letter"----a seamless web from cradle to grave)
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To: Tall_Texan

If I was running THIS country I'll tell them to pound sound and drill for oil and build some more dams to store badly needed water.


37 posted on 05/21/2006 4:53:34 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Spoken like a true Arizonan! ; )


38 posted on 05/21/2006 4:54:20 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: gpapa

You really said it far more succinctly than I!

Thank yo so much:-)


39 posted on 05/21/2006 4:55:12 PM PDT by Larousse2 (Sounds just like "The Dear Hilliary Letter"----a seamless web from cradle to grave)
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To: OpusatFR

"Personally I think it would be easier just to enforce our immigration laws."


What immigration laws?

Was I asleep that day in U. S. History, or did I cut class that day?


40 posted on 05/21/2006 4:57:28 PM PDT by Larousse2 (Sounds just like "The Dear Hilliary Letter"----a seamless web from cradle to grave)
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