Bush Losing Hispanics? (GOP ship of state becoming the Titanic?)

The American Thinker ^ | May 21, 2006 | Richard Baehr

[Torie]

My instincts are pretty about about sniffing out BS. Guess what? Kyle is leading among Hispanics in Arizona! Fancy that. The Arizona polls has too many undecideds to be of much use anyway.

         Kyle Pederson  Undecided
Caucasian 43    32        25 
Hispanic  33    30        37 
Other     24    49        27 

[Jim Noble]

If Bush is forced to choose, and goes with his conservative base, he likely writes off the chance of a 40% or more GOP Hispanic vote share for decades

Forty percent of an increasingly mestizo, welfare-dependent and racially conscious Hispanic minority is an absurd fantasy.

[Torie]

Forty percent of an increasingly mestizo, welfare-dependent and racially conscious Hispanic minority is an absurd fantasy.

It is just stunning how many experts on Hispanics we have on this site. This place could staff a university.

[pawdoggie]

Forty percent of an increasingly mestizo, welfare-dependent and racially conscious Hispanic minority is an absurd fantasy.

The most cogent comment I've heard recently. How about sixty percent of the "non-voting" lower middle-class and poor whites and blacks whose wages are going nowhere, and job opportunities are shrinking, because of illegal immigration. Maybe politicians like John Kyl should start campaigning for their vote.

[Riverman94610]

Its not true that only illegals condone other illegals.It IS true that many American citizen Latinos are not really thrilled by the huge illegal influx but many see it as a racial solidarity issue-supporting their"hermanos y hermanas"in the struggle.
When Latinos see that the vast majority of people in the Minutemen and SOS are gringos,they almost viscerally lean to the La Raza group as a reaction.
Not saying that that tendency is good or healthy,just saying it is my observation from what I see everyday here in California.

[LS]

Baloney. GOP GAINS---get it?---GAINS a net of at least one seat in the Senate and one to five in the House.

[LS]

You have to work from reality and what you "want" to have happen. I'm in OH, where DeWine voted for the amnesty, and he defeated the conservatives 75%-25% in the primary and WILL win the general (he's supposedly one of the 'vulnerable'). Don't believe it. I've looked at the races. GOP GAINS one seat in the senate---possibly as many as two---and one to five seats in the House.

[A CA Guy]

Hispanics for the most part don't vote.

They are actually conservative in values, so it ends up being a matter of education for the R party.

[A CA Guy]

PS, when has the press before and election ever NOT said the Republicans were heading toward a disaster?

[RFT1]

DeWine is either even or even down in the polls depending on what poll one sees. As for gains in the senate and house, uhm, what seats will the GOP pick up? I am in OH as well now, and many are up in arms about amnesty as well.

[Eastbound]

"The GOP isn't smart enough to figure out that it is signing it's own death warrant by giving these illegal aliens amnesty."

Well I have a scarier thought. What if they DID know and went ahead anyway? What would that suggest? Is there something happening here that the general population was not given the memo on?

With the North American Union moving over into the passing lane, I have to believe that the suckers do know what they're doing.

[rbg81]

The GOP is in trouble because the President and many key senators have betrayed their base. Period. If they had the guts to enforce the law in the first place, many of these Hispanic voters wouldn't exist. Contributions from companies wanting cheap labor won't help bring back the base this time.

[nicmarlo]

Ping

[nicmarlo]

Many Hispanic voters (catch that: that means they're legal citizens) are ENRAGED with Bush's amnesty plans.

[photodawg]

where are legal Hispanic Americans on this issue? I think its tough to read.

if the only way to get votes of legal Hispanic Americans - is too allow 100 million new Hispanic ummigrants over the next 20 years, via amnesty and family "unification" - this country is in serious trouble.
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Is there a "Hispanic" vote? I think that belief is just another stereotypical liberal media fallacy. The belief that somewhere there is this "Hispanic" race of people who monolithically vote and act as one unit it totally false. Mexicans have a very different history and culture than do Puerto Ricans, or Cubans, or West Indians. It is simply racist to group all these diverse cultures into one group and absurd to think they all behave and vote the same.
Why would Puerto Ricans support Mexican illegals when Puerto Rico has been a US territory throughout history and they can't even agree to support statehood or independence. Do we believe that all Spanish speaking people unite around a hatred and distrust of "Anglos". Is the Cuban or Dominican experience the same as illegal Mexicans? We do everyone a disservice when we categorize people this way.

[devane617]

Good comment. I agree, a revolution needs/will take place in future elections. The soultion is simple -- Build a fence and seal the border, and jail anyone caught employing an illegal. Problems will be migrating south in a few days.

[Soul Seeker]

Uh-huh, and nice of them to conveniently ignore the fact all Hispanics don't think alike on the issue. There is a strong minority that wants strict enforcement.

Nice try.

[photodawg]

Many Hispanics apparently were radicalized by the mass demonstrations, and no longer are open to any appeal for a balanced immigration plan.

Fake Polls are for morons too lazy to think.

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Exactly. The phrase "many Hispanics apparently" shows the degree to which this article adheres to even rudimentary standards of accuracy. Actually it is American citizens who have been radicalized by the demonstrations, and consequently the knee jerk amnesty response by our esteemed senate to the intimidation by the illegals, is hanging out there infuriating Americans by the millions. No new law, at this point, short of closing the borders and penalizing those illegals already here will satisfy the American people on this issue.

[LS]

Ok, GOP wins MN and probably NJ, holds the Santorum seat. So which seats will the GOP lose? I can't find any. Perhaps the Burns seat in MT, but that's a deep red state that I have trouble believing a Dem can beat an incumbent in.

Other supposedly "vulnerable" seats are DeWine (he was up 7 last I saw, and hasn't really started campaigning against Brown), Talent in MO (again, I just don't see this), and Santorum.

We have an outside shot at the MD seat, and had we run a better candidate, we should have picked off the Nelson seat in FL as well. But it's still early. I don't see ANY trend that works in the Dems' favor---certainly not the WOT, certainly not security, and certainly not illegals.

[Polybius]

Believe me as a Puerto Rican, how we are viewed and how we view other Hispanics would surprise you, the amount of dislike, envy, superiority complex, and other factors would astound you, we are not of a like mind, trust me.....pennboricua

Pennboricua is absolutely right.

Except for us Cubans, of course, who are above all that and perfect in every way. ;-)