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Chicago Poles out the stops for Constitution Day parade
The Denver Post ^ | 05/21/2006 | Lisa Everitt

Posted on 05/21/2006 11:58:09 AM PDT by lizol

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1 posted on 05/21/2006 11:58:11 AM PDT by lizol
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Lizol, this was a beautiful piece. Does anybody know, since the Polish people have always loved freedom, do they vote conservative?


2 posted on 05/21/2006 12:06:38 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: Liberty Wins

I really don't know.

As far as I know - some time ago Polish Americans used to vote democratic - just like other Catholics in U.S.(am I right?).

But it has changed today, I suppose.


3 posted on 05/21/2006 12:10:33 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: Hoodat; redgirlinabluestate; Rushmore Rocks; Jack Black; peter the great; opocno; gadrael; ...

Does any American FReeper with Polish roots know the answer to the question asked in post #2?


4 posted on 05/21/2006 12:12:23 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol; Hoodat; redgirlinabluestate; Rushmore Rocks; Jack Black; peter the great; opocno; gadrael
Does any American FReeper with Polish roots know the answer to the question asked in post #2?

From my experience, it depends on the cohort to which they belong. Post-war Polish immigrants and their children, mostly educated professionals fleeing communism, always tended to vote Republican. Pre-war immigrants and their descendants, largely working class and less aware of the evils of communism, tended to behave like other white Catholic ethnic groups: supporting democrats until recently, but now trending Republican.

5 posted on 05/21/2006 12:27:15 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: lizol

I'm not Polish, but if I'm not mistaken the current government in Poland is conservative. As for the Polish Americans in Chicago, apparently they have no problems with repeatedly electing socialist mayors.


6 posted on 05/21/2006 12:27:20 PM PDT by frankiep (Visualize Whirled Peas)
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To: Liberty Wins

At least in my experience, as a Polish-American living in another area with a large Polish population (Scranton PA area), Polish-Americans, especially the older generation, are old-fashioned Democrats. Pro-life, religious, strong on family values and national defense, but also strong supporters of unions and government helping those down on their luck. They vote Democrat because their parents voted Democrat, and they honestly don't realize what the Democratic party has become. But that's changing, and they're slowly coming into the fold around here.


7 posted on 05/21/2006 12:29:25 PM PDT by Namyak (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: curiosity
Thanks, curiosity.

I love the Poles. Great music. A noble people. Most conservatives have a strong emotional connection to the Polish people, probably because of their long struggle for freedom and their sufferings because of it. Honestly, I cried the first time I read about the Katyn Forest massacre.

Freepers, if you haven't read about that WWII tragedy, look it up:

click here

8 posted on 05/21/2006 12:31:06 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: Liberty Wins
Lizol, this was a beautiful piece. Does anybody know, since the Polish people have always loved freedom, do they vote conservative?

This American of Polish descent is a conservative and so are my parents whose parents all came from Poland.

Notice how the conversations all took place in English no translator needed.

9 posted on 05/21/2006 12:32:58 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!!!)
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Sorry, I just washed my keyboard and can't do a thing with it . . . that address for the Katyn Forest massacre is:

http://www.geocities.com/katyn.geo/


10 posted on 05/21/2006 12:38:43 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: raybbr
This American of Polish descent is a conservative

If you meant me I'm actually a conservative, but not an American.
I'm Polish living in Poland :-)
11 posted on 05/21/2006 12:38:50 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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This American of Polish descent is a conservative...

I meant myself. It's a way of speaking about yourself called "third person".

12 posted on 05/21/2006 12:40:37 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!!!)
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To: Liberty Wins
The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the Katyn Forest Massacre (Poland~1940) - October 13th, 2003

Katyn has actually been the topic of quite many threads on FR. Try it as a keyword in the FR search engine.
13 posted on 05/21/2006 12:43:28 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: raybbr

OK, got it :-)


14 posted on 05/21/2006 12:44:15 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: Liberty Wins; lizol
Lizol, this was a beautiful piece. Does anybody know, since the Polish people have always loved freedom, do they vote conservative?

I don't know about generally, but in 1980 there was a much-remarked phenomenon of blue-collar Polish-Americans in the Detroit area, who had long supported Democrats, instead supporting Ronaldus Magnus. They were called "Reagan Democrats" and were found in all of the Polish areas including Hamtramck (of course). I lived in Ann Arbor at the time (and was a young leftie) and at all of the festivals and street fairs, etc. there would be Polish-American groups selling kielbasa and Polish beer to raise funds in support of Solidarity. Well, they roped me in with the dogs and suds and helped plant a conservative seed that has bloomed within me. Now I am a registered Republican, I love and have visited Poland, and my favorite President of my lifetime is Ronald Wilson Reagan. Thanks, guys, and may God bless Poland! Google the terms ("Reagan democrats" Polish) for more details on the politics.

15 posted on 05/21/2006 1:23:29 PM PDT by rogue yam
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Freedom-loving Poles recognized one of their own.


16 posted on 05/21/2006 2:08:36 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: Liberty Wins

Polish HERE! Well 1/2 - the other is 1/2 German and hale from the Northwest side of Chicago. The Polish side IS conservative and votes republican.


17 posted on 05/21/2006 2:21:31 PM PDT by repinwi (Don't squat with your spurs on.)
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To: Doctor Raoul; trooprally

Ping!


18 posted on 05/21/2006 2:32:20 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Got freedom? Thank a veteran)
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To: Albion Wilde
I remember hearing about this and seeing the same graphic pic's.
I know Mr T's family are still in Poland and some here in the states.
This is heart wrenching to see again and read about.
May God take them up to eternal peace.

[Mrs T]
19 posted on 05/21/2006 3:08:09 PM PDT by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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May God take them up to eternal peace.

Amen.

20 posted on 05/21/2006 5:07:57 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Got freedom? Thank a veteran)
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