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More Women Not Waiting For Mr. Right
CBS2CHICAGO ^ | 18 May 2006 | CBS2CHICAGO

Posted on 05/21/2006 11:55:33 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

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To: David Allen
David it is hard enough to raise your own but we did reach out in our own little way through TV.The letters and phone calls were humbling.The teens had no-one to turn to.I say to anyone reading this in pain with children-do not make it a selfish moment you can get through this.I hold your hand ,freepmail me.
501 posted on 05/21/2006 10:44:06 PM PDT by fatima (Kathy in Alaska is the best.)
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To: durasell

I would argue that moral absolutes are neither liberal nor conservative. There is no placement whatsoever on the political continuum for this trait.

Of course, I've always believed that moral absolutes simply means that some actions (or omission) are clearly right or wrong regardless of where you are politically.

It's also notable that this definition fits in with conservative principles--or as I sometimes like to say, conservative orthodoxy.

We believe in self-determination, but we also believe that there are some things that are just absolutely wrong. Notwithstanding those things which are clearly and inherently wrong, we as conservatives believe it's pretty much up to you to live your life as you see fit.


502 posted on 05/21/2006 10:44:46 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: marajade
marajade: If I had wanted to be preached too [sic], I would went[sic] to church.

FreeRepublic.com is a forum where criticism of the opinions of others is allowed. I did not preach to you in the scriptural sense. However, the Galatians 6:7 Biblical verse is simply to remind people that our actions of today have consequences later.

One more time, if you think that teenagers using condoms represents responsibility, then you need a psycological examination of your sanity.

503 posted on 05/21/2006 10:44:55 PM PDT by backslacker (Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding Job 38)
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To: rzeznikj at stout

I don't have a problem with moral absolutes. My problem is with the people who feel compelled to pronounce them. They tend to come off as goody two shoe nags.


504 posted on 05/21/2006 11:13:22 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

I tend to agree to a point--it's one thing to define them and then abide by them. It's a whole 'nother ball game to act like a holy roller about it...

Personally in these regards, I try not to act like a preacher but more like an umpire--just call the balls and strikes against what's commonly accepted...8^)


505 posted on 05/22/2006 12:10:49 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: marajade

That's what they say about married women who choose to remain childless... we women just can't seem to win.



I thought that my brother and sister in law were going to be childless, but after seven years of marriage, they have become pregnant with a due date of 14 July. Wonders never cease. I would think that people should not consider people who don't have children as selfish or whatever because we don't know what their situation is or should we for that matter. I am not saying that you believe this or said it, but I have heard that from people before.


506 posted on 05/22/2006 12:23:30 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY

I hope all these women live very long lives,VERY ALONE AND VERY LONELY!


With children, I don't think that will happen especially if they are having children at an older age with I suspect most probably are. I know one example was the 25 year old, but I believe that is rare and most of these ladies are probably mid-30's and early-40's IMHO.


507 posted on 05/22/2006 12:30:03 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Gabz
I only commented upon this one issue...

That's right. You were commenting on one specific case. The other posters were speaking in generalities. I see nothing wrong with speaking in general terms i.e. children will do better with married parents. It's great for the little girl that she got a good daddy but speaking in general terms an unmarried teenage girl should be encouraged to put the baby up for adoption.

508 posted on 05/22/2006 12:51:36 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: backslacker
How do you have 'good parental lineage' without parents? Isn't the 'line" broken (with missing father & marriage)?

Excellent point. It's not about genes. "I want my child to have blue eyes, good teeth, and thick hair but as far as how it will affect her mental well being and future not to have a father in it, who cares--at least she will look good."

509 posted on 05/22/2006 1:10:55 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: backslacker
...even with free condoms in school available there's no self responsibility."

I wouldn't say EVEN with free condoms . I would say BECAUSE of the mentality of free condoms there is little self responsibility, little self control, and little responsibility to others. Using a condom doesn't make you a responsible person.

510 posted on 05/22/2006 1:17:40 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: wagglebee

I don't feel any animosity toward you. You are typed words on a screen, nothing more. And you can't "tell" very far.


511 posted on 05/22/2006 4:46:58 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: rintense
One thing I like about these threads is that they get me to think about things that have long puzzled me.

I have a couple of "AlphaMale" friends who I've known since around my college days. Both handsome. Both well-built and athletic. Both never-married and now in their forties

I finally realized why they never married. They never needed to learn relationship skills. Whenever their current relationship hit a bump, it was always easier to move on to the next girl on the waiting list than to figure out a way to make the current relationship work

One thing I've noticed about women in relationships, is that there's a stage where she's decided that this is a guy she would like to commit to her. So she's on her best behavior and trying hard to convince the guy that she's the one he should settle down with. Mr AlphaMale is quite happy to let that stage extend as far as the girlfriend is willing to. But at the point where she's no longer willing to be on best behavior and starts getting antsy, he decides it's time to move on.

The first AlphaMale friend just broke up with latest girlfriend when I last talked with him. The second is currently trying to break up with his current 20-year-old girlfriend (22 years younger than him), but she's doing a "Fatal Attraction" bit on him, because she can't stand the thought of being dumped by him.

Why does AlphaMale do this? Because he can. Because for every AlphaMale there's a line of women who want him, and keep passing up with disinterest all the "Joe Shmoe"-types who would be willing to commit.

Back in my early days at a consulting company I worked at, the president's secretary was always chasing after one Mr AlphaMale after another. She was absolutely gorgeous, and extremely smart and capable. All the guys wanted to date her (myself included). She would not be satisfied with anyone less than an independently wealthy business owner. I met her many years later. She was 40, and still never married

512 posted on 05/22/2006 4:58:45 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: No Blue States
Mow a lawn you lazy POS.

They're probably not that, um, handy around the house...

513 posted on 05/22/2006 5:05:27 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (They [liberals] aren't humans, but rather a species of hairless retarded ape.)
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To: durasell

Those are not the worst lyrics in the world as long as THIS song exists:

http://www.charlenesmusic.com/never.html

Crank your speakers up! :)


514 posted on 05/22/2006 5:11:04 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Smokin' Joe; roaddog727; visualops; Allegra; Beth528; nmh; ...

On a serious note, I suppose men don't value their chasity as much as they should nowadays. Promiscuity used to be a practice relegated to the social margins of neurotic leftists and the more disfunctional ethnic minorities.

As a public policy matter, we probably shouldn't allow artificial insemination to anyone except married couples with fertility problems and demonstrable good character.

Do you suppose there's some sort of political/economic constituency for the devaluation of men?


515 posted on 05/22/2006 5:21:52 AM PDT by ProCivitas (Qui bono? Quo warranto? ; Who benefits? By what right/authority ?)
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To: McGavin999

You are correct. What is really sad, is there is no picture or anything to indicate to the child who is the father. The child can never point to someone or some picture and say "that's my dad." I also see it as a degrading society. More and more men, especially as these children become adults, will have less and less respect for women. Then there is the Islam angle. I'm pretty sure the Muslims are not going this route. They are having children the old fashioned way and indoctinating the kids too.


516 posted on 05/22/2006 5:22:04 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Robwin

Here is another problem. Giving creedence to a 13 year old, as if she has wisdom enough to know what is good or bad for her, physically and otherwise. It is always interesting to note how the media uses this to their advantage. When it is one of their protected groups, the person is considered a child - even if the person is 18 or 19. If not in the protected category - then it is a young man or woman. They play with words until they mean nothing.


517 posted on 05/22/2006 5:25:03 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Gabz
Don't put words in my mouth. My comments were directed at one specific issue, where a poster said a child conceived of rape should be put up for adoption, because choosing single motherhood, even in that case was wrong. I gave an example (my friend and her family) that proved that absolutist attitude to be wrong.

My mistake, I misunderstood. Clearly, everyone is different and will have to assess the situation as it occurs. Seeking individual guidance from the Lord is a good place to start.
518 posted on 05/22/2006 5:43:26 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: ProCivitas

"As a public policy matter, we probably shouldn't allow artificial insemination to anyone except married couples with fertility problems and demonstrable good character."

As long as we're on that slippery slope, we should also forbid "natural" breeding between people who can't demonstrate good character, or show they have enough money to actually afford a child.

Or, we can take the traditional conservative attitude that the government should not be making these decisions for individuals.


519 posted on 05/22/2006 5:43:59 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: linda_22003
Amazing isn't it? There is some screwball state rep in Virginia, I think, who introduced a bill proposing the exact same thing. Talk about big brother in the bedroom. Sheesh.
520 posted on 05/22/2006 5:47:52 AM PDT by rintense
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