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Triple Crown hopeful Barbaro loses... Seriously injured during race
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Posted on 05/20/2006 11:13:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

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To: connectthedots

I don't gamble, but I watch horse racing. Horses, IMO, are the most majestic and noble of all of God's creatures. Gambling is NOT the only reason for horse racing.


501 posted on 05/20/2006 6:05:28 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT!)
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To: Lemondropkid31

Well that's part of it of the races. You theorized that you could have only one horse in the Belmont under my scenario. I'm saying... no...history of the race doesn't show that to be true... and... the most exciting TC races are the ones where the rivalry extends through all three races.


502 posted on 05/20/2006 6:06:42 PM PDT by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: All; prisoner6; marajade

My mom is watching TVG and they are saying there that they are going to put a plate and multiple screws in his leg. The surgery is tomorrow.


503 posted on 05/20/2006 6:07:51 PM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (Barbaro, please get better!!!!!)
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To: Wolfstar

I don't watch a lot of horse racing, some years, just the TC races. But I have had horses most of my life, and know when one is hurt.

I got hostile not because I disagreed on the injury, but rather because I disagreed on the blame game.


504 posted on 05/20/2006 6:07:56 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: carton253
IF the schedule is part of the test... then why should some horse get to skip that part?

The schedule ~is~ part of "the test", but the "the test" is not required! Only those horses/trainers that choose to try for the Triple Crown need to run all three races. If you skip a race, you aren't taking "the test".

505 posted on 05/20/2006 6:08:17 PM PDT by ecurbh (Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: carton253

Ok, so you have two horses in the Belmont. So what? Anyone winning the Triple Crown like that is going to have question marks by his name.


506 posted on 05/20/2006 6:09:03 PM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (Barbaro, please get better!!!!!)
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To: joylyn

An AP story I just read that can't be copied here said that Steve Wolfson saw Barbaro break at the gate the first time and knew there would be no Triple Crown winner this year.

He called it the "kiss of death." His father owned Affirmed, the last Triple Crown winner, 1978.


507 posted on 05/20/2006 6:09:06 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: halfright

Lose the tagline.


508 posted on 05/20/2006 6:11:36 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: HairOfTheDog
I doubt if you implement my scenario, you would only have one horse enter the Belmont. If that were true, the Affirmed would have raced by himself...and so would have Smarty Jones, et al... but guess what... horses that raced in the other two races showed up to race one more time.

But you are still missing my point. So, I will bow to your superior knowledge about what trainers and owners would do under my scenario.

509 posted on 05/20/2006 6:11:53 PM PDT by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: grellis

I think it was an Arkansas horse. I can't think of the name of the horse. It's driving me crazy too.


510 posted on 05/20/2006 6:12:38 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: carton253

We get your point.... We just don't agree it makes for a better race.


511 posted on 05/20/2006 6:13:35 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: grellis

That's the best argument I've heard on why all they should be entered into the races individually... But please address my point about the severeness of the schedule being part of the Triple Crown as well. That's all I'm talking about. There's a huge difference in a horse going three times in five weeks than a horse maybe going once in the same five weeks. That's all I'm saying.


512 posted on 05/20/2006 6:14:08 PM PDT by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: OldFriend

I remember that. I am trying to remember. I believe Julie Krone was riding him. Prarie Biou? Spelling is way off there


513 posted on 05/20/2006 6:15:17 PM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (Barbaro, please get better!!!!!)
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To: grellis

I had *accidentally* fallen asleep for a short nap, although I wanted to watch all the coverage from the start. I woke up at the very moment the leg snapped, but was too groggy to get the gist of what happened for a few minutes.

Thought I was watching a replay and had missed the whole race, but it was still going on. I think I even sleep-posted. (Take that, Patrick Kennedy!)

At any rate, that was the break heard round the world, even in my sleep.


514 posted on 05/20/2006 6:15:24 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: ecurbh

Uh-oh! Reinforcements from the Hobbit Threads. I better yield the field before more of you show up! Retreat here may be the better part of valor! :)


515 posted on 05/20/2006 6:15:37 PM PDT by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: Lemondropkid31

Will the horse live? Is that what its about now? Saving the horse? How sad.


516 posted on 05/20/2006 6:15:59 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Lemondropkid31

Really? Just two horses? Well... we really don't know the answer to that, do we?


517 posted on 05/20/2006 6:16:53 PM PDT by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: carton253
IF the schedule is part of the test... then why should some horse get to skip that part?

But the schedule is NOT, which is why you never see the same field of horses in all three races. It's like tennis, only with a tighter scedule. Some players do well at Wimbledon but consistently fail at the US Open. IIRC, Ivan Lendl even skipped Wimbledon one year because he always performed so poorly there. Should that have DQ'd him from the French, where he always kicked ass? What about golfers?

Three distinct races. Not one.

518 posted on 05/20/2006 6:16:59 PM PDT by grellis (can't sleep clown will eat me)
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To: HairOfTheDog

"The blame game" - I was the first one who posted about possible sabotage. But then, I was sleep-posting, so I have an excuse.


519 posted on 05/20/2006 6:17:04 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Lemondropkid31

You could tell the horse didn't want to run before the race. And the gate thing. Why did they insist on bringing him back to the gate? I would've pulled him right there.


520 posted on 05/20/2006 6:17:28 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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