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Triple Crown hopeful Barbaro loses... Seriously injured during race
http://www.preakness.com/ ^

Posted on 05/20/2006 11:13:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Post Position

Silks

Horse Name

Trainer

Jockey

Morning Line

 
1
(NA)    LIKE NOW
(Picture NA)
  Kiaran McLaughlin  Garrett Gomez
  19-1
 
2
 PLATINUM COUPLE
 Joseph Lostritto  Jose Espinoza
28-1
 
3
 HEMINGWAY'S KEY
 Nick Zito  Jeremy Rose
30-1
 
4
 GREELEY'S LEGACY
 George Weaver  Richard Migliore
38-1
 
5
 BROTHER DEREK
 Dan Hendricks  Alex Solis
7-2
 
6
 BARBARO
 Michael Matz   Edgar Prado
1-2
 
7
 SWEETNORTHERNSAINT
 Michael Trombetta   Kent Desormeaux
6-1
 
8
 BERNARDINI
 Thomas Albertrani  Javier Castellano
17-1
 
9
DIABOLICAL
  Steve Klesaris  Ramon Dominguez

24-1

 


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: barbaro; horseracing; preakness; sports; workingdogs
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To: prisoner6

No need to get into personal stuff. But maybe you all need each other tonite?


441 posted on 05/20/2006 5:22:24 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Yeah, look at Michael Jackson.


442 posted on 05/20/2006 5:22:25 PM PDT by RobFromGa (In decline, the Driveby Media is thrashing about like dinosaurs caught in the tar pits.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Roy and Gretchen Jackson, owners of race-favorite Barbaro, offer condolences to jockey Edgar Prado after their horse broke his right rear leg at the start of the 131st running of the Preakness Stakes, Saturday, May 20, 2006, at Pimlico Race Course in Baltimore. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)


Jockey Edgar Prado leans over next to Barbaro's saddle after the horse was taken away by an ambulance after it pulled up on the opening stretch during the Preakness Stakes at Pimlico Race Track in Baltimore, Maryland May 20, 2006. Bernardini won while Barbaro, who won the Kentucky Derby, did not finish the race. REUTERS/Jim Young


Barbaro is controlled by jockey Edgar Prado after it pulled up on the opening stretch during the Preakness Stakes at Pimlico Race Track in Baltimore, Maryland May 20, 2006. Bernardini won while Barbaro, who won the Kentucky Derby, did not finish the race. REUTERS/Jim Young

443 posted on 05/20/2006 5:23:07 PM PDT by ecurbh (Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: carton253

LOL! Hahaha.

Its not cheating. Its a gueling test. All the horses can't run in all the races anyway. If we made them do that, we would have horses breaking down all the time, or getting sick from it, or something else.


444 posted on 05/20/2006 5:23:45 PM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (Barbaro, please get better!!!!!)
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To: carton253
You are suggesting that all the horses be forced to run all three races?

Winning the Preakness brings the prize money whether that horse ran in Kentucky or not.

Horses will enter Belmont and someone will win and the prize money will be collected.

Where Do you get the word CHEATING?????????

445 posted on 05/20/2006 5:24:04 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Lemondropkid31

Will you ping me when you get definitive word about the horse please.


446 posted on 05/20/2006 5:25:10 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: RobFromGa
I would think technology would allow for DNA matching to get rid of the fraud element. I'm just saying it is stupid to have a stupid archaic "rule" that destroys 100% of the stud value of an otherwise very valuable horse.

No one horse is crucial to the bloodline. There are LOTS of good studs. So far, they've deemed the purity of the natural breeding process more valuable than the ability to store and use the semen from a particular horse in perpetuity, even after death. If we all had an eternal supply of Secretariat semen, who would choose other lesser semen? What would happen to the gene pool then?

447 posted on 05/20/2006 5:25:12 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

"also a purist element, that only through breeding them naturally to we ensure that we don't create an unintended weakness in the animal's ability to breed naturally.

Instead we breed a horse like A.P. Indy who is the sire of the winner, and he is a ridgeling. Too much inbreeding going on, too.


448 posted on 05/20/2006 5:26:03 PM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (Barbaro, please get better!!!!!)
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To: STARWISE
How did you come to know so much about horses, Wolf?

I don't know all that much. Like many young girls, I grew up loving horses, well all animals, really. I used to ride in summer camp, and then all through my young adulthood. When I was young, I saw horseracing through a romantic lens. I kicked around quite a bit in my early 20's, because I didn't know what to do with my life back then. I worked for about a year at The Jockey Club offices when they were in New York, then took a job exercising yearlings on a stud farm in Ocala, Fl. That only lasted a short time -- only until that crop of yearlings was sold -- but it was a very happy time for me.

I quite literally started following horse racing as a child. The races from Acqueduct, Belmont and Saratoga were shown on TV on Saturday afternoons back then, and I would hang on every word. I guess over the past 40 years or so I must have seen thousands of races. I've mentioned my involvement with the sport in the 1980's. But also as mentioned earlier on the thread, somewhere along the line, the romantic lens fell away and I couldn't take the harder side of the sport anymore.

Now I just tune in for the Triple Crown races every year more out of habit than anything else.

449 posted on 05/20/2006 5:26:12 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: prisoner6

Here's a statement from Dr. Larry Bramlage, the attending veterinarian: "He's been X-rayed and he has fractures above and below the ankle. His career is over. This is it for him as a racehorse. We're trying to save him as a stallion. He didn't get to expend his energy, so he's still full of energy. You would like to settle the horse down and get him ready for surgery. There's some major hurdles here. He has to be stabilized. We're looking at a long surgery that will take hours."


450 posted on 05/20/2006 5:27:22 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: Lemondropkid31
Well.. that's part of the Triple Crown. It is three races over five weeks... you have to run in all of them to win. That means you can't just come into the Belmont and race. No Kentucky Derby...no Belmont.

If your animal can't go in all three...then don't race them...

451 posted on 05/20/2006 5:27:31 PM PDT by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: marajade

Ok, I will let you know. I will probably put it on this thread, whatever and whenever I find out.


452 posted on 05/20/2006 5:27:49 PM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (Barbaro, please get better!!!!!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Thanks so much for the update. We can only hope for the best.


453 posted on 05/20/2006 5:28:31 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: OldFriend

I think I got the word cheating from the dictionary. Part of the Triple Crown is the schedule. Three races in five weeks... That schedule is part of the race. Why shouldn't all horses have to race in all three. There is a big difference between the horse running in all three...and the one that comes in during the Belmont. That horse has an advantage.


454 posted on 05/20/2006 5:29:16 PM PDT by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: prisoner6; OldFriend; HairOfTheDog; Hildy; beyond the sea; All

Posted by onyx to HairOfTheDog
On News/Activism 05/20/2006 5:03:54 PM CDT · 107 of 445


My heart is always in my hand watching the races. I love these magnificent creatures so much, it pains me to see any harm come to any of them.





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Posted by onyx to beyond the sea; Hildy
On News/Activism 05/20/2006 5:01:26 PM CDT · 103 of 445



Here's praying for a safe, clean race for all the horses and riders.


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Just to make it clear to everybody, those posts of mine were BEFORE the race.



Thank you for your comments, prisoner6.
Hey there, Old Friend!


455 posted on 05/20/2006 5:29:32 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: HairOfTheDog
If we all had an eternal supply of Secretariat semen, who would choose other lesser semen? What would happen to the gene pool then?

I would assume if the breeders know what they are doing, the offspring of the Secretariat semen should be improved versions of "Dad" and so thereby surpass the Secretariat semen. I suspect they want to allow nature to play it's normal role in the creation of the superhorse.

It would be almost like Dr. Frankestein otherwise. So, I am satisfied that this rule does make some sense.

456 posted on 05/20/2006 5:30:21 PM PDT by RobFromGa (In decline, the Driveby Media is thrashing about like dinosaurs caught in the tar pits.)
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To: carton253

Any horse can win any race at any time. The TRIPLE CROWN can only go to the horse who wins all three races.


457 posted on 05/20/2006 5:30:24 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: HairOfTheDog; RobFromGa
I think that's one of the key points (not overbreeding to one stallion).

AI is allowed in Labrador Retrievers, and that removes the practical limit on the number of bitches a dog can breed in a given year. When a dog wins, say, the AFC/NFC or the Grand, EVERYbody wants him in their breeding program. You wind up breeding animals with this dog all over the pedigree in multiple lines. In redneck terms, "His family tree don't fork."

Five years later, the problems crop up, and then everybody is worried . . . I have seen ads in Hunting Retriever News with the bullet point "No [famous dog's name here] in pedigree."

Allowing live cover only keeps a Triple Crown winner from being in EVERY pedigree and doubled and tripled up. And then of course there are the fraud issues and the risk of perpetuating a line that can't breed naturally.

458 posted on 05/20/2006 5:31:26 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: carton253

No one would even bother running their horses in that case. YOu would get a field for the Derby, but then nothing for the Preakness or Belmont.


459 posted on 05/20/2006 5:31:41 PM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (Barbaro, please get better!!!!!)
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To: OldFriend

"It's a serious fracture. This will require pretty major surgery," Bramlage said. "Keep your fingers crossed and say a prayer. His career is over. This is very life-threatening. He's being taken to UPenn now for surgery. yeah - and then staying calm for the time it takes to heal and not reinjuring himself.

Bramlage said a human would have to spend six weeks in bed with a comparable fracture, and "with a horse that's impossible."

"He's been X-rayed and he has fractures above and below the ankle. His career is over. This is it for him as a racehorse. We're trying to save him as a stallion. He didn't get to expend his energy, so he's still full of energy. You would like to settle the horse down and get him ready for surgery. There's some major hurdles here. He has to be stabilized. We're looking at a long surgery that will take hours."



460 posted on 05/20/2006 5:32:18 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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