Posted on 05/19/2006 2:53:23 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
There is a whole thread now on this English plus debate. People are shocked horrified. Bush has betrayed us again However
"Q: Should English be made the country’s official language? A: The ability to speak English is the key to success in America. I support a concept I call English-plus, insisting on English proficiency but recognizing the invaluable richness that other languages and cultures brings to our nation of immigrants. In Texas, the Spanish language enhances and helps define our state’s history. My fundamental priority is results. Whether a school uses an immersion program or a bilingual program, whichever effectively teaches children to read and comprehend English as quickly as possible, I will support. The standard is English literacy and the goal is equal opportunity - all in an atmosphere where every heritage is respected and celebrated.
Source: Associated Press Nov 1, 2000
PLease folks. Right here you have it. What is Bush's defination of Amnesty. He has said it time and time again. From the 2004 State of the Union " ask Congress to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy. I propose a new temporary-worker program to match willing foreign workers with willing employers when no Americans can be found to fill the job. This reform will be good for our economy, because employers will find needed workers in an honest and orderly system. A temporary-worker program will help protect our homeland, allowing border patrol and law enforcement to focus on true threats to our national security. I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary-worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.
Source: 2004 State of the Union address to joint session of Congress Jan 20, 2004
versus Kerry "Amnesty to anyone here over 5 or 6 years Q: Would you support legalizing undocumented immigrants in this country? KERRY: Absolutely. I supported and was prepared to vote for amnesty from 1986. And it is essential to have immigration reform. Anyone who has been in this country for five or six years, who's paid their taxes, who has stayed out of trouble, ought to be able to translate into an American citizenship immediately, not waiting.
Source: Democratic Primary Debate, Albuquerque New Mexico Sep 4, 2003 "
So folks in the conservative movement need to quit saying he is lying or backing off. Guest Worker programs its above. In fact its the almighty Republican Platform for 2004. So please, I think thats a good indication that being for a guest worker program is not being a Rino.
In fact a pretty good set of principles that pretty much outlined his viewpoints going back to 99.
Agree or Disagree but people need to stop making charges of betrayal. It was all there for all to see from these quotes and probaly thousands more. We have a President that sticks to his word. Thats something to be promoted not bashed.
I knew what he was, just like I knew what his daddy was. I won't compromise my values to vote for another moderate passed off as a Campaign Conservative by the GOP, no matter who the Dem candidate is.
No more, no more.
Lie.
I propose a new temporary-worker program to match willing foreign workers with willing employers when no Americans can be found to fill the job
OK, so right after an employer polls all 125 million Americans of working age we can talk about letting a few educated immigrants in. Until then, seal the borders.
Q: Should English be made the country’s official language?
This is a yes or no question. It doesn't require a paragraph to respond to it. Instead the President says this:I support a concept I call English-plus, So in other words, he does not support making English the official language of the United States. The more astute Freepers will notice that he pulled a standard politicians trick. He didn't answer the question posed, he answered the one he wished were posed.
My temporary-worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.
Maybe the Presidents plan will do that, but the one currently under consideration in the Senage won't.
My temporary-worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law
Unless of course they've managed to break the Law for a certain period of time..then they'll get to go right to the head of the line.
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Well I commend you for that. I love when people stand up and say what your're saying. Its honest and its the facts. I guess I want the record to be clear as to when he was campaigning this was what he stood for.
It's a bully tactic. Everyone knew where he stood before getting elected and then reelected but now some think that they can bully him to go against his original positions.
Let's face it, there are people out there so blinded with anger that their rhetoric has become irrational.
Immigration automatically means illegal immigration.
Guest worker program automatically means amnesty.
Now, there are jobs out there that Americans won't do. Reasons being that they are too menial, too dangerous or sadly enough, it's easier to get welfare than be forced to go get a job. However, when an employer has a job site to finish, a contract to fulfill or a deadline to make, they will hire the person willing to work.
G W Bush is an honest man. He is not sold out to anybody on this issue. And while I disagree with him on this issue, I still respect him and won't denegrate him. We just see this issue differently. I also won't set out '06 or waste a protest vote. Never never never never ever elect any dim for any reason.
welcome to the Third World Order. Our immigration policy is about to become importation of poverty from around the world.
No, but a vote for the President doesn't require absolute unquestioning assent to wrong-headed policy. That's why there was revolt of Harriet Miers and why there is revolt now. It's what happens when you choose between the lesser of two evils at election time. A lot of conservatives are realizing that by constantly settling for half a loaf, they wind up with crumbs at the end of the day.
Well I think he is clear he doesnt support 'English Only" regardless if he did not give a one word answer. The way he answered it is how any good public speaker would answer it by promoting the postive oof his idea. The Repoerter should have asked a followup.
They are not going to the head of the line. That was the Kerry position. Under the BUsh plan they have a ton of qualifications and basically have to wait 11 years even then.
No Comment other than have you read the proposed legislation? Did you hear Senator Sessions this morning?
Why did it take five, or so, years to discover immigration as a problem? I think the administration is in legacy panic mode.
Sorry, but I take exception to the word "immigrant". The people invading the U.S. are not immigrants, they are law breakers, and the gubmint is doing nothing but encouraging them for their own benefit - NOT OURS. Immigrants are people who go through the legal means of applying to enter our country, then comply with our laws. Compassion should not apply to law breakers. Nor should benefits paid for by the American people. There are no jobs the American people would not do to support themselves or their families, no matter how many times the globalists say there are. It's time ALL Americans wake up. That is, if it is not too late.
Thanks, I mean I guess thats my point. There are many conservatives that have the same position as you. In fact its the honorable one to have. I rarely know anyone that agrees with the a poltician or a party on a hundred percent of the issues.
Yes I heard excerpts and heard Sessions comments in the past week. My problem is and I might be wrong is that he assuming that what the Heritage report, that was released I think this week, is stating is correct. I have problems with that report myself and I think it inflates some numbers by not looking at some realities. However this morning he might have been going off some other study. I will have to double check tonight.
I've done more than just a little public speaking. If one is asked a 'yes or no' question then one should respond with a yes or with a no, not launch off into a speech about a literacy program which has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the question asked.
They are not going to the head of the line
They aren't going to the back of the line either. Immigrants from every other nation on the planet have to apply from their country of origin. Why not the folks who have broken our laws and violated our borders?
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And we must have a rational, humane guest-worker program that rejects amnesty
It's just too bad that neither the President nor the Senate have come up with a plan that meets that criteria.
L
I don't defend him on illegal immigration, but I also don't nitpick his every word. I generally take him at his word even if I disagree with him. So I probably can't answer your question. Others here probably will though.
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