[nopardons]

Perhaps now, but not when the MELTING POT theory was begun.

Take Manhattan, for example....

Where once the Dutch lived, exclusively, the English took over, the Dutch moved up north, then the English followed, and where slaves and free blacks once were buried, became yet another race and ethnics purview. The Irish took that area away from the "native born", followed by the Italians, who were then moved over by the middle Europeans and the Chinese.

Let's now move uptown some, to the East side...what was once immigrant Irish and European Jewish, suddenly became a venue for the "ELITE".

Up a bit farther ( Yorkville ), what was once mainly German and Hungarian, became YUPPIEVILLE.

And don't even get me started on the West side, because that's even MORE riddle with move up, move out, move higher, be invaded by a yet different ethnic group/s. Of course, there are the other four boroughs...take the Bronx; PLEASE!

All of these groups did MELT! Their children and grandchildren and great grandchildren and on and on and on...spoke English, assimilated, moved out of the "Little Italies, Germanies, Polands, Russias, Chinas, Hungaries, etc. and were just as much Americans, as those whose forebears came over on the Mayflower! And, by now, these groups have all intermarried, as well.

Are there places nobody in their right minds would venture into today? Yes. Is that something "new"? ABSOLUTELY NOT!

So what exactly is it, that you're trying to say, by obfuscating instead?

[Torie]

The Dutch didn't move anywhere when the English took over (what is now NYC, Nassau County, the Hudson Valley up to Albany, and a bit here and there in New Jersey and Delaware). It just afforded them an opportunity to make more money. No tears were shed. The Dutch in NY rather disliked the way they were governed anyway by the Dutch East India company, and preferred the English system of civil law, and liberties. I know all this, because I just completed two books on the subject. Both were recently written, and rely on information, that was and is slowly being translated from Dutch records by this guy in Albany, that only a very few scholars can now read, because the handwriting style is now achaic, and no modern Dutchman can now read it.

By the way, these Dutch were big time into slavery (in the early 18th century, the most heavily slave area in the United States was Flatbush, 45% slave), and slave trading. The Dutch who came later, and moved to the Midwest, were militantly anti slavery. Ethnic history is complex.