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Illegals granted Social Security
The Washington Times ^ | May 19, 2006 | By Charles Hurt

Posted on 05/19/2006 11:56:06 AM PDT by Rick_Michael

"The Senate voted yesterday to allow illegal aliens to collect Social Security benefits based on past illegal employment -- even if the job was obtained through forged or stolen documents. 'There was a felony they were committing, and now they can't be prosecuted. That sounds like amnesty to me,' said Sen. John Ensign, the Nevada Republican who offered the amendment yesterday to strip out those provisions of the immigration reform bill. 'It just boggles the mind how people could be against this amendment.' The Ensign amendment was defeated on a 50-49 vote," the Washington Times reports. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) defended letting illegal aliens get Social Security. "If this amendment were enacted, the nest egg that these immigrants have worked hard for would be taken from them and their families," said McCain.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Mexico; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; federalspending; invasion; mexico; socialsecurity; ssi; welfarestate
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To: TexasCajun

That's what it will amount to. Same amount of money coming in, spread over 12 million to 20 million more people.


21 posted on 05/19/2006 12:17:32 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: FlipWilson
Many on FR think that the illegal immigration debate has weakened the Republican Party.

No way; if anything, if the House stands firm, then GOP Reps will be rewarded. Conservatives are passionate about politics and are looking for leadership. Bush has clearly demonstrated that it is no longer coming from the WH. It's time for the House to stand up and be counted. If we can hang on from 2006-2008, maybe we can regroup and focus on a winning presidential candidate.

22 posted on 05/19/2006 12:17:51 PM PDT by lemura
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To: Rick_Michael

Thanks. Do you remember what the 2004 Congress number is so that I can check votes on the original vote to give Foreigners (including illegals) access to Social Security that Rush was speaking about earlier?


23 posted on 05/19/2006 12:17:53 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: TexasCajun
Illegals claiming MY S.S. is really theres?

As it stands now my social security depends on revenue that isn't going to be there anyway. My only fear is that they tax me into oblivion for having the foresight and ability to attempt to make my own provisions.

24 posted on 05/19/2006 12:18:00 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Rick_Michael

Have the Pubbies developed a death wish?


25 posted on 05/19/2006 12:19:18 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: zerosix

Sorry, I've not listened to Rush. Although I might look into latter.


26 posted on 05/19/2006 12:20:24 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Look at profile for current ways to deal with illegals immigration)
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To: Rick_Michael

Here we are wondering how we are going to get Social Security, and the Senate won't do anything to HELP AMERICANS but will go way out of the way to help the 'poor immigrant' what a bunch of -HIT!!!!


27 posted on 05/19/2006 12:21:05 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: Old Professer

"Have the Pubbies developed a death wish?"

10 of them have.

Brownback (R-KS), Chafee (R-RI), DeWine (R-OH), Martinez (R-FL), Lugar (R-IN), Hagel (R-NE), McCain (R-AZ), Specter (R-PA), Stevens (R-AK), Voinovich (R-OH)


28 posted on 05/19/2006 12:21:57 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Look at profile for current ways to deal with illegals immigration)
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To: Rick_Michael


Pay your taxes - someone has to fund the new entitlements for illegals. :)


29 posted on 05/19/2006 12:22:37 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: So Cal Rocket
Thanks for the list.

I just called senator Martinez's office and asked to be removed from their donor list.

My support will now go to Senator Sessions.
30 posted on 05/19/2006 12:24:20 PM PDT by oldm60grunt
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To: FlipWilson
Many on FR think that the illegal immigration debate has weakened the Republican Party. I believe it has strengthened it.

Actually, I think it will eliminate it. There will never again be enough Republican voters (compared to the new Dem base being granted voting rights) to get any where.

31 posted on 05/19/2006 12:25:15 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Rick_Michael
"The Senate should be ashamed of itself."
32 posted on 05/19/2006 12:32:40 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (Say what you feel, those that matter don't mind, those that mind don't matter.)
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To: TexasCajun

"What's next?

Illegals claiming MY S.S. is really theres?"

If they manage to obtain your SS# Yes.


33 posted on 05/19/2006 12:33:35 PM PDT by Nirvy
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To: So Cal Rocket

Even Robert Byrd "gets it."


34 posted on 05/19/2006 12:34:09 PM PDT by Thom Pain (Supporting the Constitution is NOT right wing. It is centrist.)
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To: Rick_Michael
My my. The Manchurian candidate wins another battle trying to destroy our country.

If you use a stolen SS# how can we figure out who gets what upon retirement?

35 posted on 05/19/2006 12:39:42 PM PDT by rocksblues (Liberals are serial liars)
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To: PghBaldy

Hopefully the House can stop this nonsense.


36 posted on 05/19/2006 12:47:42 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: Rick_Michael

The Senior Lobby groups like AARP are probably in a quandary. Usually they're all ultra-left-wing groups, so how are the rank and file going to react when Illegal Pedro is getting fradulently obtained Social Security and Grandpa Joe basically gets the same amount? I think this is going to wreck the Democrats a lot more than the Republicans.


37 posted on 05/19/2006 12:50:46 PM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: Rick_Michael

I think DeWine and Voinovich have basically come out of the closet lately.

They mus know they've more than crossed the line regarding conservative support, so they're on an all out pander to the left now.


38 posted on 05/19/2006 12:53:52 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Rick_Michael

Hmm....Sounds like some illegal can claim they were fraudulently using my Social Security number and get a chunk of my SS benefits. Of course, one thinks they would have to prove it, but "rules" are so elastic and arbitrary these days who knows.

So much for the rule of law. I don't care what party they're from--we need to vote all these a$$ clowns out!


39 posted on 05/19/2006 1:02:28 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Rick_Michael
When this bill ever gets to the house/senate finals it will not resemble the senate version, I doubt it will get that far.
40 posted on 05/19/2006 1:05:05 PM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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