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To: texastoo

Nafta was not created to stop illegal immigration, and was not sold as doing so.

The ministeries you're talking about are simply members of the executive branches of the countries involved such as Elaine Chao.

Some treaties, such as the Law of the Sea treaty I mentioned, are threats to our soverignty-- some are not.

Politicians are people just like you or me. They do not constitute a separate class of NWO members bent only on seeking power.

What you call "being a free trader" is just part of being a conservative. Was President Reagan a socialist? Was the protectionist economist Frederick List a conservative?


519 posted on 05/21/2006 7:14:58 PM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: mjolnir; texastoo
What you call "being a free trader" is just part of being a conservative.

IMO, "Free trade" as being promoted (NAFTA, CAFTA, etc) is far from synonomous with conservative principles. It is also far from synonomous with "free enterprise."

539 posted on 05/21/2006 8:11:01 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: mjolnir

"NAFTA was not created to stop illegal immigration,and was not sold as doing so."

This is Clinton's signing of NAFTA. G.H.Bush, Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford were present for the signing and each made a speech. All except for G.H.Bush refered to illegal immigration as a reason for passing NAFTA.

This is Clinton speaking:

What does that mean? It means that there will be an even
more rapid closing of the gap between our two wage rates. And as the
benefits of economic growth are spread in Mexico to working people,
what will happen? They'll have more disposable income to buy more
American products and there will be less illegal immigration because
more Mexicans will be able to support their children by staying home.
This is a very important thing. (Applause.)

This is President Carter speaking:

If we fail, I think it would be the end of any hope in
the near future that we'll have honest democratic elections in Mexico.
The illegal immigration will increase. American jobs will be lost.
The Japanese and others will move in and take over the markets that
are basically and rightly ours.

This is Gerald Ford speaking:

And I say with all respect to my former members of the
House and the Congress, don't gamble. If you defeat NAFTA, if you
defeat NAFTA, you have to share the responsibility for increased
immigration to the United States, where they want jobs that are
presently being held by Americans. It's that cold-blooded and
practical. And members of the House and Senate ought to understand
that.

All of this is found at

http://www.historycentral.com/Documents/Clinton/SigningNaFTA.html

The ministries????? Where in the constitution is the word "ministries or secretariat"

Why wasn't the U.N. ever voted on?


541 posted on 05/21/2006 8:15:58 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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