Posted on 05/19/2006 6:56:03 AM PDT by Dark Skies
Then tell me EXACTLY what you had in mind when you asked me to "Name one"?
Not only that but my laughter wasn't phony. I really was doubled up and having trouble typing. First time for everything.
But an affiliation means membership. Many US government politicians and bureaucrats are members. They ARE affiliated.
Thanks! DUH! I had looked at the prior link that said it was $15.00
http://www.cfr.org/publication.html?id=8102
I just now clicked on it and you can also download that version for free, as well.
The text appears the same as your link, although the one above is a signed version and adds 11 pages due to spacing.
Then you would have ignored my posts as harmless becaue you would have known the lack of truth improverishes ideas, some sooner, some later. Yet you fight hard agaisnt it.
I am disgusted by your willingness to smear good men you don't even know because you think they might be doing something you really aren't sure about. And since you're not certain your suspicions aren't true, they must be true and those men must be guilty of something. You're just not sure what. But my disgust with you is my problem. And I'm sure you care as much about my impressions of you as the men you smear care about your impressions of them.
I know no man as good until I see their works and know their hearts. Do you put your faith, property and liberty in any man you may meet and not know?
Please write me an essay about how that is safe, or wise.
If you pay for the copy you can get it without them putting a cookie on your machine. Thats certainly worth $15 now, isn't it? :-)
You really are bugged about this now aren't you? Heh heh. You have your challenges on CFR after sniping for a night and a half for someone to debate with you. You ought to see to that. Straightening out your train of though is not my bailywick.
"Who is changing the international order?"
That is a natural progression that hasn't stopped evolving since the beginning of time. Any number of influences change the international order. People like Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Ronald Reagan and George Bush have all changed the "international order". So have Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussain.
"Why is it 'evolving' from nation-states?"
Who says it is?
Don't limit your thoughts to just federal government officials.
Schwarzenegger has appointed quite a few CFR members to high posts (Alan Bersin, for one).
Oh yeah. Those were some really secret meetings. Say the words Seventy. Page. Document. Detailing. the. results. of. the. meetings.
"I guess the question is, did President Bush meet with Canada and Mexico the first time before or after the papers was actually written. It was published in 2005."
What in the world are you talking about. Because a council publishes a paper, it must be assumed that when the President of the United States meets with the only other two nations on this continent that he is doing so as a result of the paper. You really are a crackpot.
"How many meetings do you think it took to develop the concept?"
Read the thing. All the "secrets" are spelled right out in its opening pages.
"Let me ask, do you think the Balkanization we see going on around us"
Most people aren't wearing your funny colored glasses. Your unsupported, weak assumptions are not worth discussing. Throw some evidence on the table and it might be a little more than delusional ramblings.
Ah ha!
Since we are talking about NAFTA, which of the three countries use "secretariats" (not secretaries) or "ministers"? These are UN words and unAmerican.
NAFTA was definitely sold as a way to stop illegal immigration. Are you too young to remember?
Mexico has pushed its citizens across the border. Sad, that a country stoops so low. Mexico is too corrupt to make any kind of deal with.
I didn't see the paragraph you cited at that link. Were you sending me to post #149 of this thread?
I repeatedly answer a series of questions with exactly what tigerseye asks for, and he laughs and accuses me of being unable to answer his questions. And you chastise me for insulting him? I stand by my comments to him.
The administration has no intent to secure the border, or to enforce rigorously existing immigration laws. >>>
tin foil? go to our borders in the south this is right on the money. Had he cared, the fence and walls would have been up and he would have kept his promise to hire 2,000 border patrol agents.
Ever hear of Sisyphus? It really fits here.
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