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Posted on 05/18/2006 2:55:48 PM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: ovrtaxt
Widows will receive SS widows benefits and SS for their children up to 18 (and maybe college as well). Widow doesn't have to have worked one day to collect these benefits, and it doesn't matter how young she is.
No wonder they want to come here..uggghh.
sw
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posted on
05/18/2006 5:47:43 PM PDT
by
spectre
(Spectre's wife) ("Attrition through Enforcement")
To: Jorge
Just to be clear:
They never had any right to this money. They knew all along that they would not receive it.
Furthermore they would never have "paid into" social security had they not been here illegally.
You are entitled to your own opinion but frankly it is impossible to make a rational argument that there is anything "reprehensible" in preventing these criminals from benefiting from the criminal act of entering illegally.
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posted on
05/18/2006 5:51:55 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
To: Ol' Dan Tucker; Shermy; Publius6961; Lurker; Vaquero; FerdieMurphy
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posted on
05/18/2006 5:58:44 PM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
(My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
To: BenLurkin
Don't waste your time. This troll is a hack, and at this point, most people are too cynical to listen to someone try to justify criminal activity.
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posted on
05/18/2006 6:00:32 PM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
(My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
To: ovrtaxt
Heck, let's just give them a $10,000 a year check for life and be done with it!
(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")
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posted on
05/18/2006 6:02:16 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: goldstategop
Sure. How 'bout a Rolex? A pension plan? First time homebuyer 0% interest rates? What the heck!
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posted on
05/18/2006 6:10:20 PM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
(My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
To: Doogle; Jim Robinson
So what was all the hoopla on this board a few years ago when these questions were raised, but GW didn't want to do anything about the border crossings? I mean the chickens have come home to roost ANYWAY. Meanwhile, a lot of posters were banned and we lost a lot of conservative voices. Including me, to a point. What a waste of time! And Conservative energy!
And yes, this is a criticism of my much beloved FreeRepublic.com. What's next, then- a Democrat President in 08? I should have spoken sooner. Not that anyone would have listened. It may be too late now.
To: BenLurkin
Right. I guess in your eyes it is right to take a woman who's been struggling to support her kids as a housekeeper...... uproot her and send her back to some God-forsaken country where she has no hope, will have to live a destitute life...and that is a just solution for her having sneaked across the border 15 years ago?
These are the warped moral priorities we see posted by many of the so-called "anti-illegal" posters here.
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posted on
05/18/2006 6:11:13 PM PDT
by
Jorge
To: BenLurkin
Can Republicans in the Senate do more to see to it that Democrats get power?
This kind of BS is exactly what will keep the people home rather than voting.
This is traitorous, frustrating and infuriating.
IMO, we are going to have to take names, keep our will to remove them fresh for a couple of years then get rid of them in the primaries for other Republicans who we should pick now, not that are chosen for us.
Are we going to forget or make them pay with a loss of their job and giving it to other Republicans that are more conservative?
IMO, retire them in the next primaries.
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posted on
05/18/2006 6:16:28 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: ovrtaxt
Don't waste your time. This troll is a hack, and at this point, most people are too cynical to listen to someone try to justify criminal activity. So all you can do is label those who disagree with you as "trolls and hacks"?
This, along with your total lack of ability to mount a coherant response shows just how pathetically weak your position really is.
I knew the arguments in these threads were weak, but it amazes me just how unwilling ya'll are to fight back against those of us willing to confront you on this issue.
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posted on
05/18/2006 6:31:01 PM PDT
by
Jorge
To: A CA Guy
IMO, we are going to have to take names, keep our will to remove them fresh for a couple of years then get rid of them in the primaries for other Republicans who we should pick now, not that are chosen for us.See post 38 for the list.
Martinez is particularly grating, since the WH backed him over McCollum, a solid conservative, in the primary.
Now, they're doing the same thing to Harris, except this time, there's no strong RINO running against her. Now, she's just wounded by the Bush backstab- Jeb and George both, and unlikely to win.
Frustrating.
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posted on
05/18/2006 6:59:23 PM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
(My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
To: ovrtaxt
My problem with this is the Republicans are taking about the only path they could to frustrate their base to the point that they stay home and let Hillary become President.
Why is the Republican party so constatly stuck on stupid the last few years, anyone have a clue about this?
I want good conservatives in. I want the guys who did the contract with America. Seems these Republicans act more like they have a CONTRACT ON AMERICA.
As you say, it gets very frustrating, especially if you were born a logical person.
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posted on
05/18/2006 7:08:56 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: A CA Guy
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posted on
05/18/2006 8:14:49 PM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
(My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
To: raybbr
If you have ten Juan Gonzalez's that have been using the same name and SS# how do you determine who gets the money or do they all get it? First to file wins!
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posted on
05/18/2006 8:27:04 PM PDT
by
Mike Darancette
(Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
To: XenaLee
You need to contact the SS Admin. re: what you have paid in and what they have on record that you'll receive. They'll mail you a report/summary. Keep a close eye on what shows up on it. If you see any discrepancy re: past employers, I would report it immediately. Excelent recomendation. Both my wife and I get a copy mailed to us each quarter. I watch it like my credit report. If an employer ever shows up on the report that I have not worked for I will immediately begin straightening it out. If there are SS contributions then there are income taxes to go along with them - not to mention possible identity theft that includes credit cards, etc.
To: Kellis91789
If there were ten illegals using your SS# and employers were withholding a couple thousand bucks from each one, you could get a twenty thousand dollar tax refund that year ! If they put down 10 dependents on their W-4 you get nothing because nothing gets withheld. Then the IRS comes after you for back taxes when they see you only have a couple of dependents.
To: Ol' Dan Tucker
It's absurd. Knowing that the SS system is in deep trouble already, why would anyone deliberately sabotage it by adding millions of illegals that won't contribute to it at all, or very little. And also knowing that the majority of Americans would be totally against this, since their ssn benefits will be stretched even further under an already strained system.
Something is extremely fishy here. Uh oh. I sense another conspiracy freakout coming on. Tri-lats, Illuminati, Globalists & Bildenburgs....damn you all to hell!
"He already has.
In June 2004, Bush's appointed SSA commissioner signed the Social Security Totalization Agreement with Mexico that gives, not only the Mexican illegal alien access to our SS benefits, but also allows him to apply for, and receive benefits for his Mexican wife and children, even if the wife and children have never stepped foot in the USA.
He's just waiting until he gets his amnesty program signed into law, then he's going to spring this one on us. Mark my words. The pieces are in place, he's just waiting to spring the trap."
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posted on
05/18/2006 9:42:39 PM PDT
by
XenaLee
To: navyguy
You know the socialist DemRats are never going to give up that much of YOUR MONEY! Come on. Get real. They'll slime their way back into power, raise taxes, raise ssn, raise everything ELSE that we have to pay for, and they'll finally be happy. They're already taken over the media, unions and the public school system. They've infiltrated every single branch of government there IS, including city government office positions, and including the Republican Party. Let's face it....the Rep Party is our last and ONLY hope. If they betray us, we're screwed. If that happens, it might be time for another tea party.
"There is one GOOD hing about this... Maybe, when America is fully aware of the ramifications of this incredibly damaging decision, they will get on board with PRIVATIZING SOCIAL SECURITY. I would much prefer the gummint let me keep my money and invest it my way. I'd be a millionaire 3 times over by the time I retired."
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posted on
05/18/2006 9:48:15 PM PDT
by
XenaLee
To: Arizona Carolyn
Yeah...I think I'm in love! I've been following his career for years now. I even emailed him and asked that he consider running for Pres in '08. Hell, I'd pack up and move to Nevada or DC to work for him for free! (whew!) (is it getting hot in here?)
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posted on
05/18/2006 9:52:27 PM PDT
by
XenaLee
To: Garry Boldwater
Uh....Garry Boldwater?
Anyhoo....what else can we do but deluge the WH and our reps with our emails & letters, faxes, etc.? How about an organized protest in every city (like the hispanics just did, only better)? Maybe it's time we get out of our comfy chairs, turn off our pc's and take it to the streets like the DemRats always do.
"Any Repulican that looks at this issue as just one issue and can't see how it tears at WOT, WOD, Taxes, Governament Size it simply not acknowledging reality. Wake up Republicans, if this goes through as is, many of our core beliefs (not just immigration) are in serious danger."
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posted on
05/18/2006 9:57:44 PM PDT
by
XenaLee
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