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To: nkycincinnatikid

"The Germans ... were so superior to the French and British and Russians that they were losing only about one soldier to two of the enemy."

Equally true of the American Indians whenever they were in fights in the woods.

The bigger truth is that German military thinkers were so stupid that they attacked enemies who outnumbered them 5:1.
So they got creamed.
Didn't learn.
Did it again.
And got creamed again.
That's not just not brilliant, it's apocalyptically bad, titanically incompetent.

The Germans showed some tactical capacity and made some gains in ground warfare. That usually happens when you attack first.
At sea, the Germans were pathetic.
In the air, they were inferior to the French in World War I and the British and the Americans in World War II, not just in numbers, but in overall capacity of operations. The German commanders did not understand either airpower or seapower, and squandered what they had.

In ground forces, German units were good tactically. Strategically, they ranged between mediocre and catastrophically bad. The only truly stunning German military victory was France, 1940, which came about because the French high command was even more incompetent than the German.


135 posted on 05/19/2006 8:22:05 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Vicomte13
"The Germans ... were so superior to the French and British and Russians that they were losing only about one soldier to two of the enemy."
The bigger truth is that German military thinkers were so stupid that they attacked enemies who outnumbered them 5:1.
So they got creamed.
Didn't learn.
Did it again.
And got creamed again.
That's not just not brilliant, it's apocalyptically bad, titanically incompetent.

The Germans showed some tactical capacity and made some gains in ground warfare. That usually happens when you attack first.
At sea, the Germans were pathetic.
In the air, they were inferior to the French in World War I and the British and the Americans in World War II, not just in numbers, but in overall capacity of operations. The German commanders did not understand either airpower or seapower, and squandered what they had.

In ground forces, German units were good tactically. Strategically, they ranged between mediocre and catastrophically bad. The only truly stunning German military victory was France, 1940, which came about because the French high command was even more incompetent than the German.




Funny alternative history. Or it's interpretation.

Would you please re-educate me from following misconcept ..

At the beginning of 20th century France and Russia were dominant powers of Europe (read world) second only to British Empire.

Today Russia is a beggar (yes I know that they have as much oil money as Saudi Arabia and a nuclear arsenal, they are still beggars), Brittain is American 51st state and France .. shall we say that it is not what it used to be. Although it has lost less (relative to what it had) indeed.

Also, look at german demands in WWI. End of customs barries in Europe, access to colonies, buffer zone of independent countries with Russia - in short, something that looks remarkably like EU.
182 posted on 05/22/2006 6:36:51 AM PDT by Grey Squirrel
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