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To: justshutupandtakeit
I note that you don't address my point about your reasoning resulting in letting criminals define the law. What do you say about that?

I also note that you have dropped your insistence that you want to "ban" modern firearms, and I am still waiting for the term you would apply. Do you have one, or will you continue to ignore the fact that this is what you are advocating?

As far as the old lady goes, accidents happen. Unfortunately. Does the fact that one accident occured with one firearm mandate the restriction of them all? Sounds like you think so. And you know what? You can make all the laws in the world, and accidents will still happen. Unfortunately.

Your intepretation of the "general welfare" clause again betrays a mindset tutored by the political left. At this juncture in American history, it's safe to say that clause can be renamed the "anything goes" clause.

I think that you have been living in a "blue state" too long, and have allowed to much leftist-think to penetrate your thinking. I can sympathize, having lived in California for almost 20 years. It was hard to resist.

Your Islamic mutterings are beneath contempt, and are unworthy of response, as you doubtless already realize.

217 posted on 05/24/2006 1:21:24 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: Joe Brower; justshutupandtakeit
Maybe if you said it louder?

I note that you don't address my point about your reasoning resulting in letting criminals define the law. What do you say about that? I also note that you have dropped your insistence that you want to "ban" modern firearms, and I am still waiting for the term you would apply. Do you have one, or will you continue to ignore the fact that this is what you are advocating?

As far as the old lady goes, accidents happen. Unfortunately. Does the fact that one accident occured with one firearm mandate the restriction of them all? Sounds like you think so. And you know what? You can make all the laws in the world, and accidents will still happen. Unfortunately.

Your intepretation of the "general welfare" clause again betrays a mindset tutored by the political left. At this juncture in American history, it's safe to say that clause can be renamed the "anything goes" clause.

I think that you have been living in a "blue state" too long, and have allowed to much leftist-think to penetrate your thinking. I can sympathize, having lived in California for almost 20 years. It was hard to resist.

Your Islamic mutterings are beneath contempt, and are unworthy of response, as you doubtless already realize.

221 posted on 05/24/2006 1:26:23 PM PDT by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - Travis McGee is my friend. “You’ll never need a gun, until you need it badly.”)
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To: Joe Brower

Most laws are created because of criminals. What is strange about that? There is little need to create law for those not criminal.

How could I "drop" something I never proposed?

The old lady example merely shows that an Absolutist interpretation is not always appropriate. When her right endangers others something has to give.

Since you have used Hamilton to buttress your arguments you should know that my interpretation of the General Welfar clause is the same as his. It gives wide range to legislative action but in no way is "anything goes".

My view of guns is far different than that of the majority of Illinoisians. I like them but realise that not every weapon can be allowed to every person i.e. the 92 year old sharp shooter.


228 posted on 05/24/2006 1:40:09 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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