[justshutupandtakeit]

Oh, I have no fear of the US military acting against our citizens. It is of interest in this discussion that IT strictly controls the possession of its firearms. When my son goes onto his nuclear submarine he is not allowed to take a gun with him.

BTW your quotation does not refute what I said. While there was some difference in earlier times it just pales in comparison to that of today as I said. And militias often had their own artillary even privately formed militias. Private vessels also could be heavily armed.

And the newspaper analogy is not very convincing. Though it is true that even the First amendment is not and Absolute either and papers can be legally and legitimately shut down or censored in time of war. As can the right of assembly.

[Joe Brower]

So now you add the disclaimer "in time of war" to your arguments. And that renders the First Amendment null and void.

You really must move out the Northeast. I must say that I am sincerely glad that you do not author legislation, dictate policy, or sit in a position to "interpret" the law. Our human freedoms are the better for it.

Good day. I'm off to work now. Post one more time so you can think you have won the debate.

[Dead Corpse]

Actually, there is an onboard small arms locker on every submarine. This is less about restricting access to them as it is securing them in a place where they won't get under foot in cramped quarters.

Further, when you enlist/commission in the military, you do so with the full knowledge that you are giving up certain Rights as part of your service.

Civilian arms are the backbone of any free country. The Founders knews this and wanna-be tyrants have been working ever since to repeal or obfuscate it. And hoplophobes like you eat it up with a spoon...