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Sen. Hillary Clinton: Abortion Is a 'Basic Right'
NewsMax ^ | 5/17/06 | AP

Posted on 05/17/2006 3:30:07 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: BearArms

You offered, "The right to life is not at issue here." If you exclude the very reason why the killing of these unborn alive children is being opposed, then you have framed the debate to accomplish ONLY what you desire as the outcome and we have nothing to discuss. Your immaturity is showing, big time.


101 posted on 05/17/2006 10:23:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: BearArms
Your response following your #2 citation exposes the contradiction in your reasoning. How does the woman exercising 'sovereignty over her body' suddenly have a right to dehumanize and thus willfully destroy the body of an innocent other in her body by her actions and no action of the other receiving life support?
102 posted on 05/17/2006 10:27:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
How does the woman exercising 'sovereignty over her body' suddenly have a right to dehumanize and thus willfully destroy the body of an innocent other in her body by her actions and no action of the other receiving life support?

She doesn't necessarily have the right to destroy the embryo, if we're assuming that the embryo is a person. She does have the right to cease the violation of her body through a termination of the pregnancy. It just so happens that, at the current state of technology, an embryo cannot survive without the woman's body, but that could change in the future.

103 posted on 05/17/2006 10:54:18 PM PDT by BearArms
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To: BearArms

I'm wondering why you keep referring to the victim in abortion as 'an embryo'? While the new human is at this age you cite, the female isn't even likely to be aware of being pregnant. Are you trying to sneak in a strawman such as equating contraception with an act that doesn't involve another innocent person?


104 posted on 05/17/2006 11:05:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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I'm wondering why you keep referring to the victim in abortion as 'an embryo'?

Nope, no strawmen. I use embryo primarily because that's the developmental stage when most abortions occur (first couple months).

105 posted on 05/17/2006 11:23:39 PM PDT by BearArms
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To: Radix
Yep...

Wonder why they don't see it?

106 posted on 05/18/2006 3:48:29 AM PDT by Northern Yankee ( Stay The Course!)
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To: MonroeDNA

Some people can't read straight when it comes to Hillary; all they see is red. Look at all the "pro-life" people here who say it would have been fine if she had been aborted. ;)


107 posted on 05/18/2006 5:12:43 AM PDT by linda_22003
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Molly Pitcher is famous for practicing the art of abortion during the Revolutionary War. Maybe this is what Hillary is thinking of? :)


108 posted on 05/18/2006 5:27:41 AM PDT by PghBaldy (If my ancestors acted like the current crop of "immigrants", you would have to "press 2" for Polish.)
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To: wagglebee
1) Rights come from God.

2) We have a right to murder unborn children.

3) God gives us the right to murder unborn children.

Anyone who thinks like this isn't fit to be dog-catcher, never mind president.

109 posted on 05/18/2006 10:50:12 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: MonroeDNA
I hate her, but anyone who opposes contraception is a nutjob, in my book.

I'm a nutjob! 8-)

Why I'm a nutjob.

Give it a chance. We're really not as crazy as we seem. Really.

110 posted on 05/18/2006 10:52:25 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: wagglebee

Just as she's trying to make overtures to Christians, this comes out, confirming to all who are paying attention just who she really is.


111 posted on 05/18/2006 12:29:45 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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Sen. Hillary Clinton: Abortion Is a 'Basic Right'

What if unborn babies had the right to decide whether or not mothers live?

I think then, there would be a major shift in perspective.

112 posted on 05/18/2006 9:24:08 PM PDT by Barnacle
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