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To: dirtboy
"Are you kidding me, trying to pull this nonsense?"

I quoted YOU Dirtboy. You make post after post railing about what it means to be a "true conservative" and then you say nothing will work to solve the illegal immigrant problem "UNLESS THERE IS A TRUE DESIRE IN THE GOVERNMENT TO SEE IT DOES WORK." "True conservative" indeed. Maybe you should address your concerns to the thousands upon thousands of your fellow citizens who knowingly break the law by employing illegals. Some of them may well be your neighbors. Instead, you want to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on additional government spending when we could solve this problem for free by removing the lures that draw these people over in the first place. You want to eliminate the gross amount of spending we waste on paying illegals social programs benefits? Get rid of the social programs all together. Since when was free healthcare a right for any American, nevermind illegal aliens. You want to prove there are no jobs Americans won't do? End welfare to able bodied legal citizens and make them get off their fat butts, and away from their cable televisions and go out and work for a living. THOSE ARE REAL CONSERVATIVE GOALS. The fact that we've got illegals streaming through our cities is a clear sign that government has screwed up yet again, and on this issue the screw up started decades ago. Rather than heaping more dependency on the least productive component of our society, maybe we should reduce the load to next to nothing. Government is not the best solution to ANY of our problems.

And finally....please stop spouting drivel about "real conservatives". Ronald Reagan is tired of spinning in his grave.

2,834 posted on 05/18/2006 9:01:14 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke
and then you say nothing will work to solve the illegal immigrant problem "UNLESS THERE IS A TRUE DESIRE IN THE GOVERNMENT TO SEE IT DOES WORK."

No, I said we cannot SECURE THE BORDER unless there is a true desire to see this work. Last I checked, state laws do not allow citizens arrest of illegals - therefore, IT IS A GOVERNMENT ISSUE.

But I will grant you this - you did a nice job of taking one aspect of the problem and then applying my stance to the larger issue in order to attempt to discredit it. Very dishonest.

True conservative" indeed. Maybe you should address your concerns to the thousands upon thousands of your fellow citizens who knowingly break the law by employing illegals.

I do, but thanks for the strawman. Go try this on someone who might fall for your tricks.

2,838 posted on 05/18/2006 9:08:38 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: Rokke

"And finally....please stop spouting drivel about "real conservatives". Ronald Reagan is tired of spinning in his grave."

Amen! It gets so tiring.


2,864 posted on 05/18/2006 9:51:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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