Then point me to an example. A quote. I want context. Not Howard Dean talking points.
Next point, do you notice the wide disparity between 1 million and 200 million. Do you really put much credence in such an estimate? If someone told you your dinner was going to cost $1 or $200 would you not question their calculations? I mean, I'd want to know what how much I was going to be forking over before I started eating.
"or maybe you'd just like a Illegally founded Mexican plurality in this nation. I sure don't and if that puts me at odds with you or this forum then so be it."
Someone earlier was commenting on straw men. Your rhetoric here is a perfect example.
"What I can't figure out is how much you guys support amnesty or just support anything Bush does?...blindly and justify it as pragmatism or loyalty"
And what I can't figure out is why you are willing to give everything away because you believe illegals are getting amnesty. There hasn't even been a bill worked out, nevermind voted on. And you are throwing out white flags like a French man. Why are you so eager to quit? Do you realize there is a LOT more at stake here than a problem we've been living with for decades?
"I know two of you and realize that two of ya'll are at least not Minority FReepers clamouring for the demise of the gringo..."
What in the world does that mean?
If you're ignorant of all the White House talking points over the past year regarding Meirs, Ports Deal or Immigration where they resort to PC baiting to defend critics then you are dumber than I thought. But since you're obviously not dumb then you must be disingenuous.
I've seen you drag folks around in circles here by denying everything regardless.
So, just a simple question:
Do you support Hagel-Martinez or Bush's Quasi-Amnesty?
Yes or No will do.