Quote: "In 2006, the Republican Party is going to be executed by its Border Conservative base. At this point, it is unrecoverable. The President made a fatal error, and the Senate yesterday made it unrecoverable by refusing to agree to enforcement first. The pieces are now in motion, and they can't be stopped. BorderBots cannot swallow their pride and maintain their dignity if they vote GOP this year, and the GOP cannot win without them.
The Democrats will win in November because of what George Bush said Monday night, and what the Republican Senate did on Tuesday."
First off, this is exactly what I was talking about above. This is just the attitude the MSM and dems want us to have, namely, the "its too late, why even bother attitude." I don't except that for one second.
Secondly, its just what Pukin said, namely, that you throw out the steak just because there is a sprig of parsely on it. What about the House? They have a bill that is exactly what the "BorderBots" want. They are holding their ground. In the end, they will have to accept some of what the Senate Bill has, but the opposite will be true as well or there will be no bill. Will that bill be perfect, no. But it will be a better bill than that piece of crap coming from the Senate.
I suspect that you do expect perfection. Despite the protestations of your post, your problem is that a mega wall will not be built on the border starting today. I just don't think that was ever going to be the case. But, perhaps we can get it started.
"I suspect that you do expect perfection. Despite the protestations of your post, your problem is that a mega wall will not be built on the border starting today. I just don't think that was ever going to be the case. But, perhaps we can get it started."
There is no wall being started, or being proposed.
For the record, my own PERSONAL view on Latino immigration is that I like it. Latinos are Catholics, and bring with them family values and anti-abortion values which will, I believe, put a spike in the head of Roe v. Wade sooner than if they are not here. I expect they will drive the Democratic Party rightward on family values.
Also, they are hardworking, and I think that the cheap labor is very good for American business, which is what makes me rich.
When I speak about what Border Conservatives want, it is from the point of view of an observer with a knowledge of political history.
There is nothing that quite sharpens the mind as the approach of the executioner, and I have come to understand quite clearly that BorderBots are NOT BLUFFING any more than tax hawks were about Bush 41's "Read my lips, no new taxes" welch, or pro-lifers were about Miers. I see in the BorderBot defection a defeat for the Republicans, which is not in my interests.
The difference between me and you is, perhaps, a decade and a half of military service has made me extremely realistic and focused in my assessments. The landscape is not as I would have it be, but it is what it is, and convincing ourselves that it is somehow different from what it really is because we don't want to face ugly realities is a very good way to get dead and lose a battle and a very bad way to stay alive and win.
The BorderBots have been screaming at the top of their lungs for months. They're message hasn't been subtle. It was always a mortal threat to the Republican Party. The Republican Party, in personam President Bush on Monday night and the Senate on Tuesday, ignored them completely and gave them NOTHING that they were screaming for - indeed, gave them the OPPOSITE of it on all the key issues.
OF COURSE, therefore, they are going to pull the trigger and bad things are going to happen to the Republicans. Just like "read my lips..." with a tax hike resulted in a Democratic victory. Just like insisting on Miers would have resulted in a massive pro-life defection. It's not a game. The future is at stake, and when you have a few million people standing up and screaming what they want at you, if you ignore them completely, you are going to get killed politically.
I listened to the BorderBots, because I understood, and understand, that they are the mortal threat to Republican unity this year.
You don't.
And you're angry at me for calling a spade a spade.
So be angry.
Me PERSONALLY? Leave the damned border open and convert the country to Latin America for all I care: abortion is illegal in every Latin American country except for Communist Cuba. A country full of Mexican Catholics is a country that ceases practicing legal infanticide. I care about that.
The BorderBots violently disagree with me, and I know a real threat when I see one. They had to be appeased. The party gave them the stiff arm. Now we are going to lose a messy battle in November. We can recover if we will learn something from 1992 and retool.
You think we can recover BEFORE November, but you're talking as though the President proposed a wall. He proposed the opposite of a wall. He proposed a "virtual fence", which, to BorderBots, means "not a fence". They are not fooled, and they're incandescent. Want to keep them? Ignore the President and listen to the House of Representatives. The Republican House is trying to save the Party's ass here, but the Party does not seem to WANT to be saved.
So you won't be.
And it ain't ME who's going to put the bullet in you in November. It's the folks who've been saying they would all along?
My advice?
Give them their damned wall. That way we can win.