Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
You say that but you really do not mean it. You say it now, while the going is good. Just how long will the going be good?
The only exception I'll take with your reply is to note that "tax hawks," "pro-lifers" and what you're terming as "border bots" are not mutually exclusive groups. I'll venture a guess, based upon many people in my acquaintance, that you're dealing with all three qualities, rolled into one person, in close to a majority of instances, in border states at least.
She is already a disaster. A good friend, though. Just painfully misguided. She live in U City (Which my buddy calls Red Square)and drives about 15 miles one way to work. She says she gets about 25-30 MPG. When I asked how that was different from, say a Geo Metro or a Yugo, she said its different because Im doing my part! Total puppet. I wont buy a hybrid because I need a big vehicle, my gear and the places we take it, like the woods, the lake, the backroads, isnt conducive to a car like hers. Plus, I want to arrive at the fishin hole in a big gas guzzling, terrorist supporting vehicle. After all, nothing drives the left crazier than someone who catches and releases fish. Ill save that story for another time, but it was classic granola-speak...
Suggesting? The sorry SOBs actually gave themselves one in violation of the state Constitution (raises take effect after the election, this one was immediate) which was upheld by our sorry SOB judges because the legislature gave them a raise in the SAME BILL.
The first sitting Supreme Court justice to be recalled happened last November because of it.
I disagree with your methods as they are too dangerous for the battles we are facing.
We don't need 10% here quitting, 10% there quitting - we need all working toward our goals. There has to be a way to get the word to the party without the silly tantrums and losing of elections as they are far too costly in today's environment. We are not under the former Pres. Bush's America - we have more enemies than we can handle.
I refer you to Halgr's post with his theory of our real situation and it is something to think about.
Halgr's post #2039
"Yes I am enraged over our policy of kowtowing to Mexico and terrible border security and Immigration realities that are an embarrasment.
However, I have come to the conclusion these last several years that there is a darker issue afoot.
The Leftist/Communists/NWO aren't dummys, they have a well planned and so far well implimented agenda that is taking the Constitution and America down. (Think NEA, ACLU, The Media et el)
For a while, I thought that Bush wasn't a part of that "Conspiracy"....I let my idealism and patriotism get the best of me especially after 9-11...I wanted to believe that Bush was an honorable and rightous man, above the corruption and beyond the conspiracy.
Too many things that he has done and said of late have convinced me otherwise now....and I am angry not only with the situation but with myself for allowing myself to be suckered in.....and angry that things are worse than they appear on the surface....and that my children and grandchildren are going to see America dismantled....taken to a second or third world position.
And then I am angry with myself for my lack of Faith.....not consistantly believing that God is indeed IN CONTROL and that He is going to use this evil for His Own Eternal Purposes and Prophetic Fulfillment....I forget that all too often.
The Patriot Act, the National ID card, etc....have all been or will be snuck in on the tail of public outcry...."They" did and are doing a great job of getting us closer to 1984 (Orwell) and we conservatives for the most part remain oblivious, naive and unorganized.
But the bad guys are smarter than we think...they have infiltrated even the hallowed halls of conservatism so that there is no chance of organizing or fighting the wave as it washes over us for they are everywhere and they know the who, where and why of true American Patriots....they are just accumulating data for that time when they can take us out....and we will be powerless and probably by that time, weaponless too.
I think their game plan now is to eradicate the "Middle Class"....bring wages down to the point where "we" are scrounging to survive too exhausted to voice our malcontent.
(Think NAFTA)
I've seen articles about the NWO (Council of Foreign Relations) describing a North America somewhat like the EU....to a great extent Borderless....so that America gets watered down to such an extent as to vanish. I think there is even a plan to begin to impliment this in 2010!
I'll even come further out from underneath my rock and say that the arabs are being used, set up and exploited and yes radical islam is being fanned like a fire....but alas they are not the real enemy...just an accessory to bring whatever plans the real bad guys have, to fruition. (Think NeoCons)
Also I believe that the current adversarial battle between republicans and democrats...it's all a show, smoke and mirrors to keep us from seeing the real "man" behind the curtain."
"My comment is simple. It means punishing the party which is closest to conservatives' positions is INSANITY."
Is that our new standard? Close?
Let's say we go with that. I have a new question:
How far away from conservative principles should we be in your opinion before we can raise some sort of objection in a public forum?
Right now, there are republicans that where the R on the back of their name the way someone would wear a NY Yankee's ballcap - which is to say, that just because you are wearing the cap, doesn't mean you play for that team, or even root for them.
That happens to be the inevitable result of having the largest population of any state in the nation. You have more people than Colorado and Texas combined. You've probably got more Communists than any other state either, but that doesn't make you a Communist state. Look, I don't blame Republicans in California for our nation's problems. But I find it ironic when people from California blame the nation for their problems. You reap what you sow, and as long as Californian's keep sending people like Pelosi, Boxer and Feinstein to Congress, you're sowing weeds, and the rest of the nation can't help you out.
And I don't smoke.
"I disagree with your methods as they are too dangerous for the battles we are facing."
Vicomte13's method is to point out a dangerous blind spot, and how to avoid going over a cliff as a result. How would giving the "fence" (and not just a partial one) to this group, in order to avoid a big problem in the fall and possibly 2008, be dangerous for the battles we are facing? It would heal a dangerous rift, just as Alito's nomination healed a dangerous rift.
Sheesh! You make it sound like you're the President sending the troops into Iraq.
Way cool pics. Im sure you're proud. Please thank her for her service..
If you solve that puzzle, please ping me.
I think you are not alone in that jackson but I really think that this thing cannot be swept under the rug anymore. I could see this turning into a oust the encumbant election if they do nothing.
That cannot be good for either anyone. I will just keep my hopes high that progress will come soon. If it doesn't....well I guess I just keep my boycot of Lowes and sears stores going ;)
Glad you took a moment to check them out. Thanks!
Good. I'll remind your post the next time you visit one of the Katherine Harris threads with one of your idiotic comments about her.
BTW...Abe Lincoln was quoting the Bible.
It's the same with Iran. And it will be the same as the economy gradually turns south. The Pres cannot just 'take care' of these problems. Most all Federal action begins with Congress. The Pres administers what Congress funds, and there is no reason why he should be required to have kinglike or other superhuman powers. Requiring that would be giving up our own powers as citizens.
Dane when it was excel alot of non mexican folks worked there and lived in beardstown and the surrounding area. That is not the case today. You can come to me with your doubts but that is all you have.
Hold your line Dane and simply deny what I have told you being the reality based truth that it is. After all, denial is what you do best.
Pretend I am telling you something other than the truth all you want to. If you are ever in this neck of the woods stop on by beardstown and have a look for yourself.
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