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To: pax_et_bonum
I teach ESL students in Texas and I've never encountered so much prejudiced hatred as from a huge percentage of my students, and it's all because I'm a white American woman.

I teach too. Exact same situation. Mexicans (almost no other countries represented) will NOT say the pledge to either the U.S. or Texas. Looks of disgust on their faces while it is said. I honestly believe the government does not have an idea how grave the situation is.

24 posted on 05/17/2006 4:46:59 AM PDT by de_tal_palo_tal_astilla
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To: de_tal_palo_tal_astilla

My students stand and face the flag. They know better than to try anything else.

I can't make them actually say the pledge, and they don't.

I'm sick of it.


27 posted on 05/17/2006 4:52:07 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum
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To: de_tal_palo_tal_astilla

About the pledge...my Cuban and Haitian students in Miami said the pledge. It was the danged white liberal kids who refused to stand.


36 posted on 05/17/2006 5:30:32 AM PDT by debg
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To: de_tal_palo_tal_astilla

Oh they do. Seeing the Swimmer and Arbusto on the same page tells me everything I need to know about this.

Seeing Clintigula and GHWB tells me even more.


55 posted on 05/17/2006 6:30:55 AM PDT by chris1 (I)
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To: de_tal_palo_tal_astilla

"I teach too. Exact same situation. Mexicans (almost no other countries represented) will NOT say the pledge to either the U.S. or Texas. Looks of disgust on their faces while it is said. I honestly believe the government does not have an idea how grave the situation is."

Our "leaders" are stuck in their ivory towers (and limos) and really have no clue as to what's happening on the street. They depend on "think tanks" (an oxymoron) and manipulated "poll numbers" to get their information. Big mistakes. This issue is going to magnify and alienate even more VOTERS than it has already. Placating the American people just doesn't cut it any more.




63 posted on 05/17/2006 7:12:26 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: de_tal_palo_tal_astilla

Just flink them. These are future voters. Just what way do you think they will vote? If allowed citizenship and their rate of birth, it's just a matter of time before we are the minority and they vote our money as theirs=socialism. It's coming all across South America and I bet Mexico will get a Socialist after Fox is gone


64 posted on 05/17/2006 7:21:54 AM PDT by Tspud1
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To: de_tal_palo_tal_astilla

I honestly believe the government does not have an idea how grave the situation is.""

The ivory towers that politicians live and work in are far removed from the rest of us citizens.

I am about ready for a total war on this issue. Lock and Load.

In the last 40 years, I believe that over 40 million illegal intruders have come into the USA. This current proposal calls for over 200 million coming in in the next 20 years. If I do my math correctly that is a 10 fold increase, not counting the births of their babies inside our borders.

We cannot build schools or train "teachers" faster than they can step across the border.
We cannot build hospitals and train medical personnel faster than they can step across the border.
We cannot build prisons and jails and train law enforcement officers faster than they can step across the border.
We cannot build fire stations and train fire personnel faster than they can step across the border.
For many of us here, hoping we get good medical care without undue waiting, get well educated students who are ONLY learning in English, amd feel safe in our homes and businesses with rapid responses from the LEO's, this influx of 200 million people over 20 years is an unacceptable idea.
Lock and Load, I think we will need it. Buy your ammo now.


82 posted on 05/17/2006 8:27:37 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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