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To: Soul Seeker

"How many American citizens that live through poverty, wars, terrorist attacks, corrupt government and stock market crashes have invaded another country's land? Other than the draft dodgers? "

tell me where the golden work mecca on our border is that would suffice for what the US is to others? there is nowhere to move up from once you are here, and if things are bad here they are not going to be 5x better in canada or wherever you thing americans are going to go to to work. A stock market crash here is nothing compared to the conditions a lot of these folks are leaving behind. Have you ever lived in the third world? Do you realize even the most spectacularly corrupt US administration would just be par for the course or even rather subdued in most third world countries, including mexico?

"Far easier to be a parasite off our welfare system then fix the mess you created in your own land. "

right, you are telling me a peasant in chiapas is somehow 'responsible' for the mess in DF or the country (mexico) as a whole?

fwiw i do think the idea of turning cubans back over to castro if they don't make it is terribly inhumane.


14 posted on 05/16/2006 9:33:19 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123; Soul Seeker

if my point in the first post wasn't clear, it is as follows:

we are us citizens, we do not control mexico, its government, people, or their end of the border.

the only party accountable to the sheeple is FedGov, Bush, congress, though this is a multi-party issue.

if POTUS bush wanted that border controlled it would have been done so along with so many other changes in late 2001/2002. It clearly could have been fixed or heavily impacted long ago and OUR elected officials willfully ignored it. People here have been screaming (myself included) about the southern border since the 2001 terrorist attacks, it isn't like this is some secret washington just discovered.


16 posted on 05/16/2006 9:38:44 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

YES, every citizen of their own country that stands down and does nothing is responsible for the state of their own government. From the richest to the poorest. Novel concept I realize to some...

They are in third world status either because of dictators or because they embrace economic concepts that do not allow their country to grow. Witness what India has managed to do for itself lately.

I have no sympathy, and your excuses do nothing to stir it.

people are responsible for the state of their own lives and own fortunes barring, possibly, fascist dictators and communists. But even they have been overthrown when enough people rise up and risk their lives to do so.


18 posted on 05/16/2006 9:45:35 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Self Admitted BorderBot: Be Heard: Send a Brick: http://www.send-a-brick.com/brick.htm)
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