Senate rejects 'security-first' proposal

WND ^ | 17 May 2006

[gpapa]

I feel your pain. I am trapped here on the left coast.

[BILL FROM TROUT CREEK PASS]

How many and which of these turkeys are up for election this time around? I will send money to their opponent!

[fantom]

Bill. It could be that the best thing for us , is allowing these fools to stall the bill until after labor day. At least the guard will be in place. It will be fun to see how the folks react to our security being used as a bargaining chip for amnesty.

[Aarchaeus]

Anyone got a copy of the voting list?

I hope so. It will be needed if we can get enough citizens to Washington with the nooses.

We have some senators who have earned hemp nexkties.

[Rembrandt]

I'm surprised these geniuses didn't seek construction of better storm sewers in N'Awlins as a way to fix the problem.

[Rembrandt]

"Bush and other backers of a guest worker program say it is needed to fill jobs that Americans do not want."


Crack down on unemployment fraud and food stamp fraud and I bet the interest will skyrocket in grabbing hold of these jobs "that Americans do not want."

[Republican Wildcat]

Most of them are the usual suspects...with a few surprises in both tallies.

[afnamvet]

A supporter of the proposal, Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., said Congress has "no business passing a comprehensive immigration bill without making sure, first, that the border will be secure."

"Upholding the rule of law on our border is as important as defending our freedom in Iraq," he said. "A nation that loses control of its own borders is a nation that is not likely to exist for long.”

Spot on. Secure the borders first and verify the that the entry/exit system is up and operational at all border/port and point of entry locations.

[siznartuf]

"Most of the members of the Senate who are voting to give away the country are nothing more than the descendants of immigrants with little of the sterner stuff that came with Europe and Africa's outcasts and throwaway people."

Interesting... the words sterner stuff resonate well!

On my fathers side I am a descendant of Russian Jews who had to flee for there lives. Mothers side, Polish Jews (Warsaw ghetto)just as bad.

Maybe that's where the 'sterner stuff" comes from, I don't know, but America is still the greatest Country in the world, and I'm not going to let them destroy it with out a fight!

[Phosgood]

Don't give Warner the benefit of the doubt. He is very consistent on bringing in more immigrants.

[muawiyah]

You caught the subtle distinction between "immigrants" and "refugees", and no doubt between "immigrants" and those brought here as prisoners ~

Folks who came to America just because of the good times, such as the crowd the Senate seems to care about, really don't have the interests of the country at heart and probably won't pass on any positive beliefs to their descendants.

My neighborhood is ful of refugees. Haven't found a one who is really happy about fleeing for his or her life. On the other hand, they are all, to a person, grateful for a place of refuge. They think of America as a holy place.

[muawiyah]

Given the experience we've had around here with MS13 as far as I'm concerned Warner's interest is in bringing in more guys who will murder people with baseball bats.

He's definitely an evil old man.

[shezza]

Ol' John sent me a 2-page letter explaining his RINO position. Filled to the bursting point with the false line "jobs Americans won't do." If Americans won't do the jobs, why are 60-99% of the employees in industries that hire illegals staffed with Americans?

One of the talk-show hosts mentioned a few weeks ago that 4.8% of the workforce is made up of illegals. And unemployment is at 4.7%. Hello?

[demkicker]

[edit]

Complete list of Senate contests in 2006

State	Incumbent	Party	Status	Competing candidates	See also	Approval rating [6]	2000 Election Results [7]
Arizona	Jon L. Kyl	Republican	Running for 3rd term	Jim Pederson (D)	Main Article	45%	Jon Kyl (R) 79% Other 21%
California	Dianne G. B. Feinstein	Democratic	Running for 3rd full term	Dick Mountjoy (R) Jim Gilchrist (AIP), Don Grundman (AIP) Todd Chretien (G)	Main Article	52%	Dianne Feinstein (D) 56% Tom Campbell (R) 36.5% Other 7.5%
Connecticut	Joseph I. Lieberman	Democratic	Running for 4th term	Ned Lamont (D) Ralph Ferrucci (G)	Main Article	57%	Joe Lieberman (D) 63% Phil Giordano (R) 34% Other 3%
Delaware	Thomas R. Carper	Democratic	Running for 2nd term	Colin Bonini (R), Mike Protack (R)	Main Article	63%	William Roth (R) 44% Thomas Carper (D) 56%
Florida	C. William Nelson	Democratic	Running for 2nd term	Katherine Harris (R), Belinda Noah (R)	Main Article	48%	Bill Nelson (D) 51% Bill McCollum (R) 46% Other 3%
Hawaii	Daniel K. Akaka	Democratic	Running for 3rd full term	Ed Case (D)	Main Article	60%	Daniel Akaka(D) 73% John Carroll (R) 25% Other 2%
Indiana	Richard G. Lugar	Republican	Running for 6th term	Steve Osborn (L)	Main Article	57%	Dick Lugar (R) 67% David Johnson (D) 32% Other 1%
Maine	Olympia J. Snowe	Republican	Running for 3rd term	Jean Hay Bright (D), Eric Mehnert (D)	Main Article	72%	Olympia Snowe (R) 69% Mark Lawrence (D) 31%
Maryland	Paul S. Sarbanes	Democratic	Retiring	Ben Cardin (D), Kweisi Mfume (D) Michael Steele (R) Kevin Zeese (G/L/P)	Main Article	46%	Paul Sarbanes (D) 63% Paul Rappaport (R) 37%
Massachusetts	Edward M. Kennedy	Democratic	Running for 8th term	Kenneth Chase (R), Kevin Scott (R)	Main Article	55%	Ted Kennedy (D) 73% Jack Robinson (R) 13% Other 14%
Michigan	Debbie Stabenow	Democratic	Running for 2nd term	Mike Bouchard (R), Keith Bulter (R), Jerry Zandstra (R)	Main Article	45%	Spencer Abraham (R) 48% Debbie Stabenow (D) 50% Other 2%
Minnesota	Mark Dayton	Democratic Farmer Labor	Retiring	Amy Klobuchar (DFL), Ford Bell (DFL) Mark Kennedy (R)	Main Article	45%	Rod Grams (R) 43% Mark Dayton (DFL) 49% Other 8%
Mississippi	C. Trent Lott	Republican	Running for 4th term	Erik Fleming (D)	Main Article	64%	Trent Lott (R) 66% Troy Brown (D) 31.5% Other 2.5%
Missouri	Jim Talent	Republican	Running for 1st full term	Claire McCaskill (D)	Main Article	48%	John Ashcroft (R) 48% Mel Carnahan (D) 51% Other 1%
Montana	Conrad Burns	Republican	Running for 4th term	John Morrison (D), Jon Tester (D)	Main Article	39%	Conrad Burns (R) 51% Brian Schweitzer (D) 47% Other 2%
Nebraska	E. Benjamin Nelson	Democratic	Running for 2nd term	Pete Ricketts (R)	Main Article	73%	Ben Nelson (D) 51% Don Stenberg (R) 49%
Nevada	John Ensign	Republican	Running for 2nd term	Jack Carter (D), Oscar Goodman (D)	Main Article	49%	John Ensign (R) 56% Edward Bernstein (D) 40% Other 2%
New Jersey	Robert Menendez	Democratic	Running for 1st full term	Thomas Kean, Jr. (R)	Main Article	40%	Jon Corzine (D) 50% Bob Franks (R) 47% Other 3%
New Mexico	Jesse F. "Jeff" Bingaman	Democratic	Running for 5th term	David Pfeffer (R), Allen McCulloch (R), Joe Carraro (R)	Main Article	59%	Jeff Bingaman (D) 62% Bill Redmond (R) 38%
New York	Hillary Rodham Clinton	Democratic	Running for 2nd term	Steven Greenfield (D), Mark Greenstein (D), Jonathan Tasini (D) Kathleen Troia McFarland (R), John Spencer (R/C) Sander Hicks (G), Jeff Russell (L), Bill Van Auken (S)	Main Article	63%	Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) 55% Rick Lazio (R) 43% Other 2%
North Dakota	Kent Conrad	Democratic	Running for 4th full term	unopposed	Main Article	67%	Kent Conrad (D) 61% Duane Sand (R) 38% Other 1%
Ohio	R. Michael DeWine	Republican	Running for 3rd term	Sherrod Brown (D) William G. Pierce (R)	Main Article	48%	Mike DeWine (R) 60% Ted Celeste (D) 36% Other 4%
Pennsylvania	Richard J. Santorum	Republican	Running for 3rd term	Bob Casey, Jr. (D), Chuck Pennacchio (D)	Main Article	39%	Rick Santorum (R) 52% Ron Klink (D) 46% Other 2%
Rhode Island	Lincoln Chafee	Republican	Running for 2nd full term	Matt Brown (D), Sheldon Whitehouse (D), Carl Sheeler (D) Steve Laffey (R)	Main Article	52%	Lincoln Chafee (R) 57% John Weygand (D) 41% Other 2%
Tennessee	William H. Frist	Republican	Retiring	Ed Bryant (R), Van Hilleary (R), Bob Corker (R) Harold Ford, Jr. (D)	Main Article	51%	Bill Frist (R) 65% Jeff Clark (D) 32% Other 3%
Texas	Kay Bailey Hutchison	Republican	Running for 3rd full term	Barbara Ann Radnofsky (D)	Main Article	57%	Kay Bailey Hutchison (R) 65% Gene Kelly (D) 32% Other 3%
Utah	Orrin G. Hatch	Republican	Running for 6th term	Pete Ashdown (D)	Main Article	60%	Orrin G. Hatch (R) 66% Scott Howell (D) 32% Other 2%
Vermont	Jim Jeffords	Independent	Retiring	Bernie Sanders (I) Richard Tarrant (R)	Main Article	67%	Jim Jeffords (R) 66% Ed Flanagan (D) 25% Other 9%
Virginia	George F. Allen	Republican	Running for 2nd term	James H. Webb (D), Harris Miller (D) Gail Parker (G)	Main Article	49%	Chuck Robb (D) 48% George Allen (R) 52%
Washington	Maria Cantwell	Democratic	Running for 2nd term	Mike McGavick (R) Mark Wilson (D) Aaron Dixon (G) Bruce Guthrie (L)	Main Article	48%	Slade Gorton (R) 49% Maria Cantwell (D) 49% Other 2%
West Virginia	Robert C. Byrd	Democratic	Running for 9th term	John Raese (R)	Main Article	64%	Robert Byrd (D) 78% David T. Gallaher (R) 20% Other 2%
Wisconsin	Herbert H. Kohl	Democratic	Running for 4th term	Robert Lorge (R)	Main Article	63%	Herb Kohl (D) 62% John Gillespie (R) 37% Other 1%
Wyoming	Craig L. Thomas	Republican	Running for 3rd term	Dale Groutage (D)	Main Article	58%	Craig Thomas (R) 74% Mel Logan (D) 23% Other 3%

[siznartuf]

You wrote: "My neighborhood is full of refugees. Haven't found a one who is really happy about fleeing for his or her life. On the other hand, they are all, to a person, grateful for a place of refuge. They think of America as a holy place."

Right! They didn't come as a business venture -- just to make a buck.

And further: "They think of America as a holy place."

Yes, "a holy place", and this was always the way most Americans saw it. This was part of the tradition that was handed down. Now it's all about the "almighty dollar" as they say.

And further: "Folks who came to America just because of the good times, such as the crowd the Senate seems to care about, really don't have the interests of the country at heart and probably won't pass on any positive beliefs to their descendants."

Indeed, your supposition that there is a distinction -- in attitude if you will -- between the 'refugee' type mentality and the 'good times' crowed seems to hold. Still, ideally, these differences should be attenuated through common purpose, and strong selfless leadership from those that put the interest of the people first... a tall order I know!

[muawiyah]

It would appear the problem is insurmountable. Maybe my ancestors should have kept all the economic immigrants "on hold" for 10 generations or so ~ like not having the privilege of getting involved in the political affairs of the nation.

[siznartuf]

“It would appear the problem is insurmountable.”

The problem may be insurmountable by man; however, there is a saying – I think in the bible – that “…With God all things are possible. So perhaps there is still hope.

[goldstategop]

By its vote, the Senate demonstrated its priorities are not those of the American people.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")