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Mexico Threatens Suits Over Guard Patrols
Las Vegas Sun ^ | May 16, 2006 at 14:11:22 PDT | MARINA MONTEMAYOR

Posted on 05/16/2006 2:15:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) -

Mexico said Tuesday that it would file lawsuits in U.S. courts if National Guard troops on the border become directly involved in detaining migrants.

Mexican border officials also said they worried that sending troops to heavily trafficked regions would push illegal migrants into more perilous areas of the U.S.-Mexican border to avoid detection.

President Bush announced Monday that he would send 6,000 National Guard troops to the 2,000-mile border, but they would provide intelligence and surveillance support to Border Patrol agents, not catch and detain illegal immigrants.

"If there is a real wave of rights abuses, if we see the National Guard starting to directly participate in detaining people ... we would immediately start filing lawsuits through our consulates," Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez told a Mexico City radio station. He did not offer further details.

Mexican officials worry the crackdown will lead to more deaths. Since Washington toughened security in Texas and California in 1994, migrants have flooded Arizona's hard-to-patrol desert and deaths have spiked. Migrant groups estimate 500 people died trying to cross the border in 2005. The Border Patrol reported 473 deaths in the fiscal year ending Sept. 30.

In Ciudad Juarez, Julieta Nunez Gonzalez, local representative of the Mexican government's National Immigration Institute, said Tuesday she will ask the government to send its migrant protection force, known as Grupo Beta, to more remote sections of the border.

Sending the National Guard "will not stop the flow of migrants, to the contrary, it will probably go up," as people try to get into the U.S. in the hope that they could benefit from a possible amnesty program, Nunez said.

Juan Canche, 36, traveled more than 1,200 miles to the border from the southern town of Izamal and said nothing would stop him from trying to cross.

"Even with a lot of guards and soldiers in place, we have to jump that puddle," said Canche, referring to the drought-stricken Rio Grande dividing Ciudad Juarez and El Paso, Texas. "My family is hungry and there is no work in my land. I have to risk it."

Some Mexican newspapers criticized President Vicente Fox for not taking a stronger stand against the measure, even though Fox called Bush to express his concerns.

A political cartoon in the Mexico City newspaper Reforma depicted Bush as a gorilla carrying a club with a flattened Fox stuck to it.

Fox's spokesman, Ruben Aguilar, said Tuesday that Mexico accepted Bush's statement that the sending in the National Guard didn't mean militarizing the area. He also said Mexico remained "optimistic" that the U.S. Senate would approve an immigration reform "in the interests of both countries."

Aguilar noted that Bush expressed support for the legalization of some immigrants and implementation of a guest worker program.

"This is definitely not a militarization," said Aguilar, who also dismissed as "absolutely false" rumors that Mexico would send its own troops to the border in response.

Bush has said sending the National Guard is intended as a stopgap measure while the Border Patrol builds up resources to more effectively secure the border.

In Nuevo Laredo, across from Laredo, Texas, Honduran Antonio Auriel said he would make it into the U.S.

"Soldiers on the border? That won't stop me," he said. "I'll swim the river and jump the wall. I'm going to arrive in the United States."

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Associated Press Writer Mark Stevenson in Mexico City contributed to this report.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; countersue; mexico
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To: TChris

I hate to inform all of you . but We as America , dictate
exactly what we want. Your officials Dictate to all countries exactly what we want. when,where, and how.


221 posted on 05/16/2006 5:31:07 PM PDT by lucky american (We cannot direct the wind but we can adjust the sails)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

George Bush and the U.S. Senators need to read this thread!!!


222 posted on 05/16/2006 5:33:30 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
President Bush announced Monday that he would send 6,000 National Guard troops to the 2,000-mile border...
Total dreamscape.
Here is a clue, Marina Montemayor of the Associated Press...we're waiting for the Senate to act. Then they have to square things with the House. We're talking weeks before things are final.
All President Bush did was...make it clear where I stand, and where I want to lead our country on this vital issue.
He hasn't done anything and you make it sound like he is doing it all by himself. That isn't the whole picture.
223 posted on 05/16/2006 5:35:38 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: Tammy8

Nuts.


When you care enough to send the very best.


224 posted on 05/16/2006 5:37:29 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Don't fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty. www.dontspeakforme.org)
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To: lemura

Centrist=Liberal

Yeah, we figured it out pretty quick that when Teddy defends him and the NYT's is sympathetic that he sure as hell isn't taking a conservative approach.

Those Hispanics you note he's targeting? Half of them are illegal. Kick the socialist law breakers out and poltically they lose nothing since LEGAL Hispanics don't support illegal immigrants.

But that would take a President that gave a damn about Americans and our laws.


225 posted on 05/16/2006 5:39:29 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Self Admitted BorderBot: Be Heard: Send a Brick: http://www.send-a-brick.com/brick.htm)
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To: BlueStateDepression

"Does wanting the rule of law enforced and wanting to see my nations borders repsected and defended make me a bigot?"


Not at all!! I sure didn't mean to give that impression.

For me, it's the hysterics of it all.....it's letting the issue become a wedge between the Republicans and the Conservatives......it's the hate and bashing of our president for a problem that has been around for over 30 years that I personally know of.

When Republicans and Conservatives work together, over time, the USA is stronger, but when they pi$$ on each other, the dims and libs win....AND, if our split continues, the dims WILL have the power and we can all kiss this country goodbye.


226 posted on 05/16/2006 5:48:41 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: Gator113

The USA is only strong when rule of law prevails.
I agree that many administrations have contributed to this problem. One constant thru many of them is Congress.

Alot of folks have been there for a very long time. Allthough I hammer W for his part I lay most of the blame for this issue at the feet of congress. I was very happy to see W say much the very same thing last night.

I am not for the Dems winning out over the political right. I am equally not for attempting to scare the political right with the fact the left might win. That is not a reason to keep voting for the right. Issues that the political right presses for is why to vote for them.

The split can end when it is agreed that the enforcment of the rule of law comes first. Might as well be a dem if ones position is not that of enforce the law. Imho.

Sorry if I read your post the wrong way I just thought I would ask.


227 posted on 05/16/2006 5:57:11 PM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: cbkaty

I'm surprised Bin Laden hasn't sued us.....

Post of the day !


228 posted on 05/16/2006 6:12:41 PM PDT by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: Soul Seeker; Tammy8; hispanarepublicana
Those Hispanics you note he's targeting? Half of them are illegal. Kick the socialist law breakers out and poltically they lose nothing since LEGAL Hispanics don't support illegal immigrants.

I didn't mean current Hispanics - I meant future generations of Hispanics. And they will all be legal - the 14th will never be amended or re-interpreted.

Rove is a systems guy - he's interested in the political process. His primary focus is what's good for the GOP, not what's good for the country.

What's good for the GOP is to maintain control. In order to do that, the GOP must win elections. As certain representatives of illegals have asserted, the outrage you hear from the right is an "echo of a dying culture". (They were right about Calif, and they're right about America.) So, to win elections and maintain power, the GOP must appeal to Hispanics to form a new coalition.

You may disagree with the intent and/or motivations (ie why can't they put America first?), but you can't fight the conclusions: the US will be majority Mexican within 100 years.

229 posted on 05/16/2006 6:15:00 PM PDT by lemura
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To: BlueStateDepression

It seems that we are not that far apart on this.

While I don't agree with everything said in your post, I sincerely appreciate your approach and tone.


230 posted on 05/16/2006 6:24:45 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: Gator113
However, if these people keep it up, I will jump that fence, join the bigots (while still trying to support my president) and fight these morons to my last drop of blood.

You're joining La Raza?

231 posted on 05/16/2006 6:31:17 PM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: lucky american

Are you serious, or did you forget your /sarc tag...?


232 posted on 05/16/2006 6:31:38 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: teawithmisswilliams

Ba-da-bing! Good one!


233 posted on 05/16/2006 6:32:10 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: Right_in_Virginia; teg_76
It's a sad day in America when the President cares more about what Vicente Fox thinks than what the American people think

"Let me guess...you're addicted to drama, right?

Because you sure aren't attracted to truth."

Give us some rhetoric or action by the President that contradicts the statement. Truth, indeed.

234 posted on 05/16/2006 6:34:07 PM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: La Enchiladita
Ba-da-bing! Good one!

Gracias.

235 posted on 05/16/2006 6:35:20 PM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: lemura

And, again, you fail to note why.

because we have allowed mexico to send its poor here, which they refuse to stop. Were our borders controlled the demographics would be different.


236 posted on 05/16/2006 6:36:46 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Self Admitted BorderBot: Be Heard: Send a Brick: http://www.send-a-brick.com/brick.htm)
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To: Soul Seeker

And things would be different if the citizens weren't in love with socialism, materialism, and not having kids. Not like I have any, though.


237 posted on 05/16/2006 6:46:48 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: teawithmisswilliams

"You're joining La Raza?"


Not hardly!!

I admit that I didn't and usually don't try not make a simple post into a work of art.

But it is the short sighted and knee-jerk comments like yours that makes Conservatives look bad.

Keep it up and we will have the same jacket as the traitors nut case libs!!


238 posted on 05/16/2006 7:22:33 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wow.

I think it's past time to STOP entirely the remittance of dollars back to Mexico.

No longer is there any excuse for paying for our own destruction by clear enemies.


239 posted on 05/16/2006 7:25:04 PM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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To: lemura

The difference between future generations of hispanic voters and current generations of conservative hispanic voters is that our ancestors came here honorably and legally.


240 posted on 05/16/2006 7:36:30 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Don't fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty. www.dontspeakforme.org)
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