[trebb]

Thank you for injecting some sanity into the mix. It seems that most of the folks either listened for key words near and dear to them, or listened to the ravings of others who are critiquing the plan offered, and end up missing what was said. The Prez offered to put out the effort/time/manpower to help secure the borders, acknowledged some of the financial problems and criminal activities caused by many illegals, asserted that businesses that hire illegals need to be punished, etc., and pretty much covered most of the major gripes. Yet, we still get the armchair quarterbacks who think that the first major step offered is not enough. They claim to trust the Prez in the WOT, yet they all think they could do a better job with the borders and illegal immigration, and it would seem that some of them think they could do it without spending money.

Some days, it feels like FR has been infiltrated by a bunch of Dims and MSM pukes hell-bent on performing the coup-de-grace on the country.

[Dominic Harr]

The Prez offered to put out the effort/time/manpower to help secure the borders, acknowledged some of the financial problems and criminal activities caused by many illegals, asserted that businesses that hire illegals need to be punished, etc., and pretty much covered most of the major gripes

1. How did he offer to put the effort/time/manpower into helping secure the borders? The Nat'l Guard troops are temp, support, and nowhere near enough. From my point of view, he did *not* address actually securing the border. Instead, he 'pandered'.

2. He offered no 'enforcement' of employers who break the law.

3. He covered *none* of the major gripes. This is typical political tactics -- elected folks are using this to try and "buy" votes. They are doing this cuz they want the lobbyist $$$'s behind the guest worker program, and on the hope that 60%+ of the new immigrants will vote for the folks who legalized them.

This is typical politics.

[ichabod1]

Some days, it feels like FR has been infiltrated by a bunch of Dims and MSM pukes hell-bent on performing the coup-de-grace on the country.

They've certainly been out in force on this thread.