Dig this and those who survive it deserve it.
Posted on 05/16/2006 5:36:42 AM PDT by kellynla
For my next trick, ladies and gentlemen, I will perform a death-defying stunt -- no, not climbing a 300-foot ladder, diving through seven rings of fire and landing perfectly safely in a glass of water. That's easy once you know how to do it.
Instead, I shall advise you on how to interpret President Bush's speech on immigration that you heard last night but that was delivered several hours after this column was written. Very simply: Ask yourselves the following questions:
Did the president use the phrase ''comprehensive immigration reform'' several times? That's revealing because this phrase is an example of smuggling. He hopes that by wrapping a ''temporary guest-worker program'' and the ''not an amnesty'' provision to legalize the 12 million illegals already here -- both of which are unpopular -- inside a tough-sounding popular promise to secure the border with the National Guard, he will persuade most Americans to accept the first two proposals.
Did the president spend a large part of his speech on promising to secure the border by sending the National Guard there? Heigh-ho. This is the umpteenth time that Bush has promised to toughen up border security with a new initiative. He does so whenever there is public disquiet about illegal immigration.
Yet this kind of mini-initiative is fundamentally irrelevant. As this column has repeatedly pointed out, porous borders are the result of uncontrolled immigration as much as its cause. You cannot control the borders, however many patrols you hire or fences you build, if you grant an effective pardon to anyone who gets 100 miles inland.
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He would be good -- and I may very well end up doing just that.
:-)
It wouldn't be the internet if someone wasn't being acting like an idiot.
Kinda personal there harrowup. Are we on a first name basis? What "disappointment" may that be?
"A wall would be nice ,but right now I would settle for a leader who did not openly encourage illegal immigration."
no reason why we can't have both...
it's taken Bush five years to realize that dramatically more personnel were needed on the border;
hopefully he'll realize sooner that "good fences make good neighbors." LOL
"A 'guest worker' program, like the 'H1-B' program that has been such a disaster in the high-tech field, does not get my support, period."
Thank you. Finally someone states this publically. The US has had a guest worker program for many years now under the false assumption there are not enough qualified Americans to do the jobs. After the dot com bust, Americans got laid off; the H1-B's didn't. Why should we trust the .gov now?
Good question too.. WHy?.. Because hes a globalist.. riding a fine line to appear as a "conservative".. Because he has passed legislation(not veto'ed) no democrat could have gotten through..
I was being sarcastic true but the incest between the partys is deep.. A large influx of people who could care less about borders.. serve the globalist agenda.. And America is the last holdout(worldwide) on National Soverignty.. When America "goes" then the Global agenda can happen.. until then it can't happen..
It is happening.. thats what the insugents across the Mexican border is all about.. Watering down Americas soverignty.. The democrat party is already on board with "globalism"(one world givernment).. The republican party has stood against it.. But thats quickly changing.. It really has ALWAYS been the socialist task to engulf the world in a socialist system.. nothing new.. The only thing new is the republican party bogarding it..
How else can the actions of The White RINO House be explained.. With runaway deficit spending and importing multi millions of new democrats ON PURPOSE... Congress passes all this legislation true, but, they wouldn't do it if they knew the White RINO House would veto it.. George Bush is merely a cog in the wheel but an extremely powerful cog and bottleneck.. A bottle neck IF he was a conservative he isn't.. He opens the door to the other globalists in Congress..
Thats why attacking him throws at least a small monkey wrench into the machinery.. the globalist machinery.. Its true that it might be too late to do anything about the globalist freight train.. in America.. But God bless any that trys.. maybe it will slow it down.. And give a few more years for "something" to happen..
Multi millions of new democrats(illegals and legals) WILL VOTE for Hillary you see.. And Hillary is not a covert globalist, like Bush, shes overt.. Which sorry to say, IS THE POINT.. 2008.. (Jaws Theme)..
Too right.
No on in my industry is fooled -- 'Guest workers' like "H1-B" are here cuz industry leaders wanted cheaper, indentured workers.
This is completely irrelevant to the security of the United States. I don't think that invading that country improved our security against terrorism one tiny bit. I think the invasion of Iraq was justified, but not under this pretense.
The invasion justly accomplished two things: It relieved the oil producing nations in the region of an obvious danger. It freed a lot of people from a cruel dictator.
Dig this and those who survive it deserve it.
You forgot the microphones to detect tunneling.
What else. . .do you remember?
And then people will want more budget cuts, and there goes the border patrol and wall maintenance.
Yes, more equipment promised. Enough to build a 'virtual wall'.
So?
I repeat -- there have been these same promises in the past. They weren't followed thru in the past. He did not admit that, and just repeated the same promises.
He didn't talk straight. He didn't come in and say, "Okay, the problem is that we don't currently do anything to enforce the current laws, and here's what we're going to do to fix it."
Instead, he just promised more.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool Rs over and over and over again, shame on the party.
Just like if the Rs in Congress get together and give a speach saying that smaller govt and a balanced budget must happen, and they are going to make it happen.
Only a fool would believe them. Because they've lied, and lied, and lied about that.
So it took awhile to get that out of you.
I repeat -- there have been these same promises in the past.
Do you have a reliable link to these promises? I don't remember ever hearing them made before.
I find that interesting.
I live in Texas. I'm afraid I've been close to this issue for a long, long time. My father-in-law is an importer with a business based in Laredo.
The single most annoying one was back in the 80s, with Reagan's amnesty. Promises of beefed up border security, and promises to crack down on enforcement, all to pass an amnesty.
They got the amnesty, and neither of the other 2 came true.
It's very simple -- Bush did not talk straight last night.
The truth is, we have a problem cuz the system is corrupt. When employers break the law, nothing is done.
If Bush wanted to win me, personally, back (arrogant of me, I know!) he would have had to talk straight, and admit that. Instead, he said nothing about how to crack down on the corruption. And he said he won't do anything without also getting more 'amnesty' (all the while pretending it wasn't amnesty).
My single biggest gripe about this is the 'guest worker' program. I'm a web developer by trade. We already have a 'guest worker' program, in the H1-b, and the like. The safeguarding laws are routinely ignored by employers, who use it just as a chance to get cheap, indentured workers. The industry is for it, and spread a lot of lobbyist money around to get it, and it has been a dismal failure for all but them.
This is almost certainly the same.
I personally don't think this is over. I think if the unrest in the C movement continues, then Bush will try again.
Good afternoon.
"Several million returned from enforcement over 5 years sounds good to me."
As we were shipping out those "several million from enforcement over 5 years" how many millions slipped by on the way in? How many of the ones we returned were back within a week or so?
If we don't control the border, we are just spending money and pi$$ing in the wind.
Michael Frazier
I remember that one. I thought you were talking about promises that Bush has made before. You can't hold Bush responsible for what Reagan did.
You two seem a bit out of sorts; you need to change your diet and exercise more, like take a hike, maybe.
You misunderstand me completely. I don't even blame Reagan for that.
It's the system. The problem is, Bush can only propose.
Congress will have to pass bills to fund, then the beauracracy will have to implement.
And since there is much personally to be gained by Congressmen by *not* enforcing these laws, the laws won't get enforced. Border security will *not* be beefed up.
Bush last night asked me to 'trust' that congress will put aside their pork-barrel aproach to funding and do what's right for the country. I do NOT trust the Rs in congress to do that. They will only fund that which is personally beneficial to them.
They will get money from lobbyists of businesses who want cheap labor, and they will leave the flood gates open. Same way we got and keep the H1-B program.
Bush did not address the main cause of our problems -- the corruption of the system. When immigration officals do large sweeps of businesses and haul off workers, the owners of the business can call their congressman and get their workers back.
I've heard stories here in Texas you wouldn't believe!
So like with campaign finance reform, they now propose more laws to stop them from ignoring the laws???
Bush hasn't found the right note on this issue yet.
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