[ovrtaxt]

I tend to look at these matters primarily in economic terms.

So do I. Any thoughts on the ideas in post 2? What we got last night was a non-solution.

[spatso]

The problem of prohibition was that it pushed alcohol consumption under the table. Crime levels increased, fortunes were made and the entire initiative became a nightmare. Not only did prohibition create a financial quagmire there is substantial evidence that the rates of alcoholism also increased. Essentially, that is what the President faces today. If you enforce rigid, zero tolerance immigration criteria the system will become more criminalized and more profitable for those who figure out how to manipulate and beat the system. So, I clearly favor tightening the border and reducing the flow of aliens. In regard to those who are already here, let government do the only thing that they appear to do well, tax them. Make them pay the entire cost that they impose on the system and make certain employers absorb a tax to offset the increased demands on the system where migratory workers are employed.