[xzins]

obeying in part is not true Christianity

Actually, obeying in part IS true Christianity.

• 1 John 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us
• 1 John 1:10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.
• 1 John 2:1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
• Romans 7: 14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good.
• Romans 7...For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

• Romans 4:7 "Blessed are they whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will never count against him."

• Eph 2:8 - For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--

It is quite clear that Abraham and Lot (his nephew) were UNWELCOME Aliens in their sojourns. They had left their country in roughly Iraq, and they had traveled to Palestine. Many objected to their use of water and pasture.

• Ge 17:8 - The whole land of Canaan, where you are now an alien, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God."
• Ge 19:9 - "Get out of our way," they replied. And they said, "This fellow came here as an alien, and now he wants to play the judge! We'll treat you worse than them." They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.
• Ge 21:23 - Now swear to me here before God that you will not deal falsely with me or my children or my descendants. Show to me and the country where you are living as an alien the same kindness I have shown to you."
• Ge 23:4 - "I am an alien and a stranger among you. Sell me some property for a burial site here so I can bury my dead."
• Ge 28:4 - May he give you and your descendants the blessing given to Abraham, so that you may take possession of the land where you now live as an alien, the land God gave to Abraham."

[GarySpFc]

Apprently you did not read that illegals are subject to the laws. An illegal alien is not a Ger. And yes, I am familiar with grace.

[GarySpFc]

Firstly, an illegal alien is a lawbreaker, and in no way is he the Ger of the Bible. To say otherwise is a false exegesis.

Secondly, “I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. NIV Jn 10:1

Thirdly, I am very familiar with grace, but that does not give one a license to sin. Nor does that give you the right as a pastor to leave one in lawbreaking. The grace of God is designed to lead us to obedience, not disobedience.

Fourthly, “Why do you keep calling me ‘Lord, Lord,’ but don’t do what I tell you? I will show you what everyone is like who comes to me, hears my words, and acts on them. He is like a person building a house, who dug a deep hole to lay the foundation on rock. When a flood came, the floodwaters pushed against that house but couldn’t shake it, because it had been founded on the rock. But the person who hears what I sayr but doesn’t act on it is like someone who built a house on the ground without any foundation. When the floodwaters pushed against it, that houses quickly collapsed, and the ruin of that house was devastating.” ISV Lk 6:46

[GarySpFc]

Here are some of the most common felonies committed by illegal aliens..

8 usc 1325 entering the US unlawfully (misdemeanor first time, felony second time)
8 usc 1326 entering the US after being deported
18 usc 1546 using false documents to obtain work authorization
18 usc 1028 using false identification document
42 usc 408 misuse of a social security number
18 usc 1344 setting up a bank account with false information

[GarySpFc]

It is quite clear that Abraham and Lot (his nephew) were UNWELCOME Aliens in their sojourns. They had left their country in roughly Iraq, and they had traveled to Palestine. Many objected to their use of water and pasture.

An unwelcome alien and an illegal alien are two different beings legally.

[P-Marlowe]

Frankly x, I really had little problem with illegal aliens until they decided to flex their muscle and claim rights that even legal aliens know darned well they are not entitled to.

When they recently desecrated the American flag, and made claims to this land as their own, they were no longer sojourners or foreigners passing through the land, but they had at that point become invaders.

Your scriptures about Abraham might be fitting if you were to argue that God intended to give the Southwestern United States to the descendants of Montezuma as an inheritance. That appears to be the desire of many of the illegal aliens who have recently come north.... To claim this land... MY Land... as their inheritance.