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To: Lucky Dog

I should have been clearer.

Was democracy a topic 200yrs ago? Yup, but democracy is a wretched majority rule, hence our Republic.

However, the Founders WERE the first to propound a SELF Govt of liberty, which you seem to ignore.

And last I checked, liberty and freedom are synonyms.

Pick all the nits, make all the arguments you want, but I feel the Founder's MAIN impetus was escaping the oppression of Govt period, in the old they wished to escape, and in the new they hoped could be kept. That rule of law is necessary to justice, isn't the main point, restoring limited Govt is.


65 posted on 05/17/2006 8:13:52 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites; Lucky Dog
To: Lucky Dog
-- the Founders WERE the first to propound a SELF Govt of liberty, which you seem to ignore.

Pick all the nits, make all the arguments you want, but I feel the Founder's MAIN impetus was escaping the oppression of Govt period, in the old they wished to escape, and in the new they hoped could be kept.

65 Marxbites


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Well said.

Our boy willfully ignores the "presumption of liberty" inherent in our Constitution.

Sample Chapter for Barnett, R.E.: Restoring the Lost Constitution: The Presumption of Liberty.
Address:http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/chapters/i7648.html
68 posted on 05/17/2006 8:44:57 AM PDT by tpaine
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