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To: jmc1969
Under Bush Administration guidelines, it is not considered illegal for the government to keep track of numbers dialed by phone customers.

There's also that pesky little 1979 Supreme Court case, Smith v. Maryland

5 posted on 05/15/2006 8:36:26 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

How many times does it have to be said that Smith v. Maryland does NOT answer the question of this program's legality? That case concerned the constitutionality of pen registers. It had nothing to do with the legality of this program with respect to several federal laws. (Something doesn't have to violate the Constitution to be illegal you know.)


17 posted on 05/15/2006 8:42:50 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: martin_fierro
There's also that pesky little 1979 Supreme Court case, Smith v. Maryland

And in that case, investigators had clear evidence that Smith was engaging in harassing calls. That is the problem with the government database - it gets calling data for everyone, not just those with suspected ties to terrorism. And a pen register is a very limited device - whereas modern data mining can do a lot more within the context of a searchable database and the ability to daisy-chain call linkages.

18 posted on 05/15/2006 8:42:57 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: martin_fierro

Superseded by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA) of 1986.


190 posted on 05/15/2006 1:27:43 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: martin_fierro

Wow - interesting case.


197 posted on 05/16/2006 7:50:12 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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