[JeffAtlanta]

If he outlines a serious proposal to improve border security and defers his guest worker proposal, that will be good enough for me - but I will also be looking to see if he follows through on it.

I really don't believe that anything but a building of a wall will be accepted. Even putting troops on the border will be rejected as a serious move as the president himself is such an open border proponent.

I predict that he will call for spending increases that will also be rejected as just glossing over the problem.

If he isn't going to propose a wall then it would be best if President Bush just skipped the speech as it will do more harm than good.

[dirtboy]

I really don't believe that anything but a building of a wall will be accepted. Even putting troops on the border will be rejected as a serious move as the president himself is such an open border proponent.

Like I said, in the end, results will matter. Maybe we can develop a mix of technology and boots on the ground and that could be as effective as a wall. And there is one basic problem with a wall - the damn enviros will tie it up for years, as they have done with the last section in the San Diego sector. I'd like to see a wall, but I'll settle for a serious effort to improve the current sieve.

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If he isn't going to propose a wall then it would be best if President Bush just skipped the speech as it will do more harm than good.

Agreed.