Posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone
May 15, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - In his live, nationally televised address tonight, President Bush will tell Americans that it's impossible to deport the estimated 11 million illegal aliens living here.
"We must reject amnesty, but recognize that it is not realistic to round up millions of people and send them home," said White House spokeswoman Maria Tamburri in a preview of Bush's speech.
She said Bush plans to spell out his vision for sealing the border, enforcing the law, and "creating a rational system for workers to come into our country and to do jobs Americans won't do." Bush plans to visit the U.S.-Mexican border this week, and will dispatch his Cabinet to help sell the immigration plan.
The Senate plans to return to the contentious issue this week now that Republicans and Democrats have a deal to plow through controversial amendments. But the House and Senate are far apart on whether to put illegals on a path to citizenship.
Tamburri said Bush would call for "better equipment, increased funding, and advanced technology" to secure the border.
She didn't confirm press reports that Bush wants to expand deployments of National Guard Troops to step up border enforcement. Some Guard troops are already deployed in Arizona and New Mexico, but Bush is considering a big increase.
White House National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said that enforcement was the Border Patrol's job - but then asked whether they needed help from the Guard on an "interim basis."
"This is not about militarizing the border," he said. The president is looking to do everything he can to secure the border. It's what the American people want."
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It was all you deserved.
The most effective question to ask of any pro-illegal is simply: why do you oppose the rule of law? If we, as a nation, wish to modify/amend our laws, why not pursue this through normal democratic channels? Selective enforcement is corruption defined - it's how republican forms of government corrode and fail.
Why do you believe that having an opinion different than yours is hateful?
susie
There is nothing wrong with those proposals and each one can be rationally implemented. But you start out by admitting that you aren't going to deport 11 million. By accepting the truth of that you can then look for rational approaches to improving the situation, but you still haven't addressed the 11 million.
Keep working on it further and you will discover that there are rational methods to improve national security, reduce the cost of illegal immigration, drastically restrict the flow of illegals into the country, improve the assimilation of immigrants into our culture and generally make illegal immigration a non-issue 10 years from now. None of those methods involves rounding up and deporting 11 million illegal immigrants. Most of the methods cannot get the necessary popular support until the myth of deporting 11 million is busted.
Except that President Bush is calling for a surrender to the 11 million criminal invaders within our borders. He won't even work to fight them over a period of time.
I never said it was the Roman army. I was explaining a concept through example. Y'know, a literary technique.
Bah, never mind. Rah rah Bush.
APf
How long will that slur keep bouncing around?
As long as the phrase, 'Islam, the religion of peace,' does.
***The most effective question to ask of any pro-illegal is simply: why do you oppose the rule of law? If we, as a nation, wish to modify/amend our laws, why not pursue this through normal democratic channels? Selective enforcement is corruption defined - it's how republican forms of government corrode and fail.
***
I think the answer is they employ them and they don't want to pay an American a higher wage.
I'm sure things are very simple in your little world. But again, you're gonna have to do a lot better. :-)
"You just go from thread to thread spouting you hate don't you?
Might be more constructive if you could come up with several alternatives to the problem."
I'm sorry, but I have to laugh over your post. What's so constructive about Stopem coming up with an alternative?? Like any politician is going to listen to him. They don't listen!!!! What part of THEY AREN'T LISTENING don't you get? It wouldn't matter if Stopem came up with the PERFECT solution, they wouldn't listen. They don't work for the people anymore!
Also, i haven't gone from post to post and am not familiar with Stopem's posts, but this one is not hate-filled, it's FRUSTRATED with the inaction and lack of representation by our elected rulers.
Your post didn't advance anything either, so I wouldn't talk if I were you.
I'm sorry to get on you, but if you don't like his posts, just ignore him. I appreciated the link and have mailed it around and posted it on a forum I go to.
You go research the polls that have come out over the past couple of months then come back and tell us how 80% of the American people think we ought to deport 11 million "criminal" immigrants. I won't hold my breath.
I see the direction you are headed.
Ok, yes.
But lets come out and say it. American employers and workers/ we the voter will relate.
That there are American citizens that prefer public assistance over doing a respectable day of hard work, that these citizens are unreliable workers when required to work, therefore we need foreign citizens to do these jobs.
I hate it but I think you're right..
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the law CURRENTLY state that we will deport illegals? We're not changing that. All we're suggesting is that there should be better enforcement of that law. Anything is better than no enforcement, and let's face it, there is nothing we can do that would result in the deportation of 11 million illegals. So it's a false argument.
Someone ought to point out that we would not need to deport illegals if they had protected the border in the first place.
Leave it up to the states whether they want to extend welfare benefits to guest workers, but guest workers should pay all federal, state and local taxes just like everyone else. If a guest worker commits any felony they are automatically deported after serving any jail time ..probation means immediate deportation. Anyone who is not registered is to serve several years in a labor camp...make it as miserable as possible... and then be deported. Anyone deported is denied further entry to the US even as tourist and violators will get hit with say 25 years in prison.
This isn't rocket science folks ... a reasonable means to deal with this problem is quite possible.
We can't round them up and deport them. But we CAN round them up, give them jobs, give them benefits, and give them citizenship?
Make it a felony and a $100,000 fine (per illegal) to employ an illegal alien, enforce the law, and the illegals will leave en mass.
No, apply the same laws as DEA uses. Get caught employing an illegal and all assets are coniscated and given to the INS (factory, cars, equipment), employer goes to jail on a felony charge, home is confiscated. If the INS sees that they can financially benefit they'll enforce. They can even declare we're winning the war against illegal aliens. Appoint an illegal alien Czar - worked for DEA.
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