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To: Almagest
My favorite argument -- which I have seen repeatedly in here over the years -- is in two parts. To paraphrase:

1) ID is not about God or the Bible, so why do you "evos" keep pushing that lie about ID?

2) If you want to keep ID out of the science classroom, that just proves that you hate God and the Bible.

Well ID is creationsism as described in Genesis. Documents submitted in a court of law as evidence clearly states this connection by the very people who synthesized and propagated the concept of ID. It has been proven in a court of law that ID is creationism with a fuzzy box where God would be mentioned.

And any scientist, not just evolutionary biologists want ID out of the classroom because it corrupts the very core of what science is all about. Moreover, to label such scientists as God hating Bible burners shows how foolish you are. Religious scientists know the difference between the two and are aware of the dangers of mixing them inappropriately. For example, I am a Christian and am an ordained Elder. I do not see a conflict with Christianity and evolution, nor does my faith try to chain God in a book rather than acknowledge how vastly mysterious He is. Creationism is a primitivization of Christianity and transforms a grand religion into book idolatry.

66 posted on 05/15/2006 6:11:05 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: doc30


Hi, Doc -- I agree with everything you said. I just wanted you to be sure you noticed that I was not making those arguments -- I was pointing them out because of their inherently contradictory claims, and because they make those putting them forth look like hypocrites.



82 posted on 05/15/2006 10:34:36 PM PDT by Almagest (Ptolemy was a creationist. This does prove creationism -- right?)
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To: doc30
And any scientist, not just evolutionary biologists want ID out of the classroom because it corrupts the very core of what science is all about

Note carefully, students, that he says he does not want it simply out of the "Science" classroom but out of any classroom. We must not brook any philosophical objection to the myrmidons called Scientists.

84 posted on 05/16/2006 2:53:17 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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