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To: JasonC

Israel won't allow it, and Europe knows it. Why stretch their neck and threaten to have the spigot turned off when the Jews will pay the bill for them.

The Jews can't allow Iran to get the bomb. It's just that simple.

This is Europe ramming it to the Jews again. They are declaring that they WILL stand by yet again and let another holocaust occur.


34 posted on 05/14/2006 9:52:39 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs
This is Europe ramming it to the Jews again. They are declaring that they WILL stand by yet again and let another holocaust occur.

This is definitly wrong. We did more for Israel than anybody else recently since we gave them the second-strike-abillity:

The former German chancellor Helmut Kohl decided to equip Israel with 2 new Dolphin Class submarines for free after realizing the eminent threat through Iraqi chemical weapons in the early 90ties. In 1995, Germany and Israel finalised an agreement for a third submarine, that was paid by half through Germany.

In the fall of 2005, Israel and Germany reached an agreement for the purchase of two additional submarines from Germany. One third of the 1 billion euro cost will be donated by Germany while the rest will be paid for by Israel. These boats are exptected to be similar to the advanced Type 214 or Type 212A submarines, modified to about 2,000 ton displacement and propelled by AIP systems. Press reports have also indicated that Israel is interested in outfitting its existing Dolphin fleet with AIP systems and other upgrades.

The Dolphin class is a non-nuclear type of submarine developed and constructed by Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft AG (HDW) for the Israeli Navy. It is the predecessor to and similar in design to the German Type 212 submarine. The Dolphin boats are considered to be some of the most sophisticated and capable conventional submarines in the world. Since the US have no modern conventional submarines in their production Israel is reliant on European deliveries, since they lack the technology and abilities to build such advanced equipment on their own.

The Dolphins are equipped with the nuclear armed Popeye Turbo cruise missle system. This gives Israel a nuclear second strike abillity against agressive countries like Pakistan, Iran or Syria and is a fundamental part of the security of Israel. It is the sure one way ticket to hell for all Mullahs who think that they could wipe out jews and judaism on this planet. More helpful than all unrealistic dreams about "beheading-strikes" with inapplicable Israeli planes in Iran or elsewhere.

Since the ships were by large parts a German gift(!), there is no reason to whine about bad bad Europe. The whining level is on a all-time high. Maybe we Europeans are not consent with every American or Israeli operation but we try to be helpful.


40 posted on 05/14/2006 10:36:56 PM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (De omnibus dubitandum.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Israel isn't going to start a nuclear war with Iran.

They will wait for Iran to start it with them.

They withdrew from Lebanon, and got attacked. They evicted people from Gaza because the US asked, and got Hamas. Israel won't even cut off the Hamas-led PA, because they think they might get bad press in Europe if they do. Their credibility is not exactly sky-high at the moment.

52 posted on 05/15/2006 5:08:58 AM PDT by JasonC
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