[lewislynn]

We really don't know if taxes will rise under a FairTax system.

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What I'm talking about isn't wishful thinking but rather patterns of human behavior and economic rules that have driven life for thousands of years.

Then you also don't know or rather do know it's wishful thinking that businesses will arbitrarily pass on all savings to consumers.

[Principled]

...it's wishful thinking that businesses will arbitrarily pass on all savings to consumers.

Not wishful, dumb. It's not "arbitrary" at all. Savings must be passed on in the form of lower prices, higher wages, or improved ROI (all benefit the individual). Competition dictates the breakdown and it most certainly will vary by industry and business.