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To: Kellis91789
So it is incorrect to say that state & local salary expenditures will increase by 30%. Closer to 12% would be my guess.

I didn't say ALL expenditures would increase by 30%. So we then agree in principal: states and localities will have to raise MORE tax money than they currently have to pay their FairTax prices. Nowhere in the FairTax propaganda is that noted.

Well, the 'used goods' argument is false.

So then you are suggesting that there will be no net shift in buying behavior, no new "choices" for people to make.

In other words, the notion that the FairTax allows you to pay as much or as little tax as you wish is really a red herring.

In any event, the FairTax base does NOT allow for ANY avoidance or ANY evasion from current retail purchase behavior. That is simply unrealistic.

132 posted on 05/15/2006 1:21:42 PM PDT by Dimples
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To: Dimples

[So then you are suggesting that there will be no net shift in buying behavior, no new "choices" for people to make.]

Oh, they can still choose to buy used, and they will pay lower taxes by doing so. But it will be mostly a protest against higher taxes, not a reason to get more bang for their buck.


147 posted on 05/15/2006 2:49:43 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. --Will Rogers)
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To: Dimples

From Dimp-Dimp's #131:

"I didn't say ALL expenditures would increase by 30%. So we then agree in principal: states and localities will have to raise MORE tax money than they currently have to pay their FairTax prices. Nowhere in the FairTax propaganda is that noted."

And from his earlier post on #117 of this thread:

"States and localities must now pay 30% FairTax on consumption purchases and salaries; nowhere in all the FairTax propaganda nor in the ramblings of its proponents is this fact EVER acknowledged. States and localities will need to RAISE tax rates to compensate."

We see here a wonderful example of the anti-FairTax crowd's duplicity and disingenuousness when the poster claims with equivocation to never have said something he clearly said without equivocation (states & localities have to pay 30% tax on salaries... which isn't true IAE). He then jumps from his disguised misstatement to the interpretation than the recipient of the post agrees with him (which was not the case) and projects that non-truth to mean there must be an inrease in tax money raised (which also is not true).

This sort of misrepresentation and balderdash is usually known as the Chicken Little attack mode to try to scare the uninformed away from the FairTax. It's basic assumption is that people are stupid. They aren't.

It's like old Abe said:

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."

And the Squirrels are fooling very few people jusdging from the feedback I see.


193 posted on 05/16/2006 8:35:15 AM PDT by pigdog
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