Posted on 05/14/2006 1:44:10 PM PDT by LouAvul
I am not crying because a little marine boy can't wear his uniform. Wah Wah Wah that mean school hurt my feeling Wah Wah Wah.
I didn't think some Marines was pussies until now. Chesty Puller would be proud.
By the way I sleep peaceful because the Army and Navy and Air Force protects me not just the Marines. Funny thing is I can't recall a single big war you guys won by yourselves?
The military uniform is not compatible with all civilian activites. It is NOT appropriate attire at all times.
Although it is a Class A uniform and can substitute for a suit or tuxedo, it still is not the appropriate dress for the occasion. If a student wanted to wear a suit or tux to graduation, fine, but they would also have to wear the cap and gown to walk across the stage.
And I don't giv a damn what branch; when it is a 'cap and gown' ceremony, then SHOW SOME DAMN RESPECT for the ceremony and what it represents instead of attempting to hijack the occassion to selfishly draw attention to oneself.
Yes.
Sometimes we have to make choices in life and those choices might have negative consequences.
I'm sure his family wasn't terribly dissappointed and he did graduate and get his diploma.
He stood up for his beliefs and the school upheld their standards.
Good on all accounts it seems.
Semper Fidelis. Even if they aren't faithful to us in return.
First of all from what I read on this tread I say almost everyone on both sides would let the kid walk across the stage. Our differences is if the civilian had the right to keep the marine from wearing his dress blues.
I have heard another Marine say he would charge up to the stage and take his diploma no matter what the school ruled. What if a teacher tried to stop him? Would you have Marines fighting the teachers up on stage? Image how that would play in the civilian press.
You have several other services represented on this tread and most of them say that the school has the right and that they would obey the rules. They are not Marines but I can post the Medal of Honor numbers to show that not just Marines can be heroes.
I and about every other person in uniform has been discriminated against. You suck it in and go on. You don't pick fights because YOU represent the US Military to the public.
The day when the soldiers with the guns decide that civilian rules isn't for them is the day the military takes over. You may not like those rules just like I don't like Hilton for what they did. You can respond as civilians would and boycott or write letters to the editor or vote. That is your right. As long as you obey the rules because the civilians make the rules. I understand the gung ho feeling of this Marine and why he did it but I think it may of hurt the image of Marines more than help it. Still if I read that his commanding officer was all for it I will take his side.
I know it is a Marine thing so I just can't understand.
sorry just batched a response.... I agree with what you did.
if you can't tell the difference between boot graduation and high school graduation then the whole point of him wearing dress blues will be lost on you. You think one "uniform" is just the same as the other.
OK, I guess you're right....
The fact that the administrator and folks like yourself can justify this inability to offer the common decency to honor this young man speaks more about what lies in your heart and spirit than his.
And who appointed you head of the FR Complaint Department?
But, since you've decided to insert yourself, I will be sure and let you know when I have something to complain about.
hey...... uh, you're right. Funny thing is, most Marines that have seen combat will tell you they wanted everyone they could to get in on the fight.
if I could have during a firefight I'd of called in Army tankers, Air Force Bombers, Navy Bombers, Navy missles and big guns, Army artillery.....hell I'd of taken supporting fire from a Coast Guard cutter.. we're all on the same team, especially in combat.
I've been in a combined force that had some of the best soldiers I've ever had the privledge to meet/greet and fight with.
The interservice rivalry is as old as there are different units. We're like brothers in the front yard fighting with each other...we may be knocking the cr@p out of each other, but if somebody outside the family tries to grab my brother and pull him off....then we'll both pound on you.
The reason Marines might be the way they are is that we don't have fancy tanks, the newest jets, hottest transport vehicles or even the "smartest" guys (I guess).... all we have is our bond with our brother Marines and pride in our ability to overcome and adapt in order to do the mission, or die trying.........and we have the best looking dress uniform of all the armed forces.../sarc..roflmao.
Former Army here...I'm one who says that this is a cap and gown event, not a military uniform event.
And I've been in a combat zone, something that these boot camp/basic training/AIT/B School, etc grads haven't.
If they want to wear their uniforms, fine but they sit on the sidelines.
you say tomayto, I say tomahto....
You have issues, Lad, issues...
..And yes, the military dress uniform is completely appropriate for all civilian festivities, except the ones where they decide to dishonor themselves...
Semper Fi!
The school is out of line, the young man is a US MARINE, serving his country and should have been treated as such. It's all right for male students to walk down the aisle in sandals and pony tails. An exception should be made for american military.
Absolutely! This so-called "educator" is another example of our worthless socialistic gubmnt school system.
None.
Uncorrected vision too poor.
The recruiters didn't know that until meeting in person.
First, I didn't limit the idea to 'festivities' as you cleverly tried to do. I said 'activities' which would include festivities but not limit to them.
But let's look at this...would a military uniform be appropriate for church related canvanssing?
Or would a military uniform be appropriate for political campaign?
Or what about wearing a military uniform while picketing an abortion clinic?
Or what about wearing a military uniform while participating in private charity or religious work while off duty?
The fact is that you were wrong in your assertions that military uniforms are appropriate for all civilian activites/festivities.
And that includes high school graduation ceremonies.
("Lad"? Do you really think that your lame attempt at condescension got to me? LOL...I hope that you'll understand all this without pictures...but I can tell by the way your lips are moving that you are reading this even though you don't like what it says.)
If you had tried out, you might have made it - who knows?
Then you would have understood when and where you'd have worn the Blues.
Semper Fi
You are a vet and you have the right to say that. He is not. Did you have dress blues after basic? There is a lot to this story besides "close minded school oficials being un-American" that the press is trying tomake out. People in this town who are close to the situation say he is grand standing. He is not an American hero, at least yet. Think how you would like this guy working beside you in a conflict situation when you were instructed to complete a task and instead, he choses to defy authority in the name of doing it his own way. I am sure he is proud to be a Marine. He should be. but that does not mean you have the right to tell the rest of the world to kiss his ass.
The government schools have become leftist indoctrination centers and the US military appears not to be held in high regard.
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