[rcocean]

You actually understate the problem.

There are hundreds of millions of people from all over the world, Africa, Central America, China, and India, who are very poor and would love to move here.

Of the 11 illegals, almost 3 million are Visa over-stayers (sic). Anyone can fly here, on a Visa from anywhere, and then refuse to leave. Eventually they will become a citizen under the Senate "Amnesty" plan.

[kabar]

Of the 11 illegals, almost 3 million are Visa over-stayers (sic). Anyone can fly here, on a Visa from anywhere, and then refuse to leave. Eventually they will become a citizen under the Senate "Amnesty" plan.

The visa refusal rate in most of the less developed countries is very high. There are 27 countries in the visa wavier program that don't require visas to come here. It would be interesting to learn what countries these visa overstayers come from and what kind of visas they were issued. I think there are far more than 11 million illegals in the US. The number is closer to 20 million.

[Arizona Carolyn]

Anyone can fly here, on a Visa from anywhere, and then refuse to leave. Eventually they will become a citizen under the Senate "Amnesty" plan.

That includes people who are here right now, in alQuaeda cells, waiting to do us harm.