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To: garyhope
What would these type of people have done during WWII?

A few from the moonbat fringe actually pointed out that Hitler never attacked us and Japan wouldn't had attacked us had we not provoked them with a trade embargo.

35 posted on 05/14/2006 4:15:04 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Vigilanteman
A few from the moonbat fringe actually pointed out that Hitler never attacked us

The Paleo wing?

42 posted on 05/14/2006 4:26:26 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: Vigilanteman; garyhope
What would these type of people have done during WWII?
A few from the moonbat fringe actually pointed out that Hitler never attacked us and Japan wouldn't had attacked us had we not provoked them with a trade embargo.
History is a little more interesting than that analysis allows.

First of all, the Great War had been a futile slaughter, and nobody in their right mind wanted another one. Consequently enthusiasm for joining WWII was de minimus in America. Exactly as it had been in Britain before the blitzkrieg of France. Note that I did not say, "until the invasion of British ally Poland," since that event was followed not by an Anglo-French invasion of Germany (which Hitler was betting the farm would not happen) but by the "sitzkrieg" - the British and French did nothing for months, until Hitler gathered his forces on the western front and siezed France and forced the British to evacuate from Dunkirk.

When Neville Chamberlain came back from Munich having cravenly given Hitler all that Hitler (then) demanded, he announced "Peace in our Time" - and was greeted with wild enthusiam on his return to Britain. The British people had no desire for another war, and America had no more taste for it than Britain did. It polled 80% against.

In 1940 FDR promised to keep us out of the European war. But he thought that we should fight Hitler, even though he was actually hostile to the British Empire which covered a third of the globe (and was responsible for such depradations as the abolition of slavery worldwide). The aggressiveness of FDR's actual position correlates remarkably, however, with the interests of the USSR. The "neutral" US Navy was harassing German U-boats (and taking casualties in the process) throughout the summer of 1941 - which just happens to correlate with the invasion of Russia by Germany on the first day of summer of that very year.

Most of this is to be found in The New Dealers' War by Fleming; link


68 posted on 05/14/2006 6:03:47 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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