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The article is excessive in parts.

But hold off until he speaks? No, cannot do that in good conscience.

The administration is floating trial balloons to guage reaction before Monday night's speech. If people are reserved in judgement or even silent, the administration would assume, if not completely onboard, that folks are not outright hostile to what has been leaked.

NG is good, but it's nowehere near enough. And continuing to push amnesty/Guest worker before the problem of securing the border is addressed is absurd. And continues to lead people to believe their suspicions are correct. That it is a feint to the right just long enough to shove the rest down our throat. They don't have the trust on the people on this issue. They have to earn it before we talk of what to do beyond enforcing the border.

Given the choice, wouldn't you prefer to alert the administration to an oncoming trainwreck...rather than tell witnesses to that train wreck afterwards you saw it coming and said nothing? He may still step in front of that train, but at least it'll be suicide rather then being unaware it was heading right towards him. Implying a choice in the matter.


73 posted on 05/13/2006 2:31:27 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Self Admitted BorderBot: Be Heard: Send a Brick: http://www.send-a-brick.com/brick.htm)
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NG is good, but it's nowehere near enough. And continuing to push amnesty/Guest worker before the problem of securing the border is addressed is absurd

Yep. Stem the tide first. Then enact a strict assimiliation program. LEARN ENGLISH, no welfare benefits after six months, emergency servcices only, anything else they pay for like the rest of us, no voting, and holding public offices, photo IDS for all, and limit money transfers to 50 dollars. This would be a good start. Half of them will be unable to meet these requirements, and will be forced to leave..

76 posted on 05/13/2006 2:38:24 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy in 2008!)
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My issue with the article is calling the President a con man before he has even spoken.

Lets look at past administrations.

Carter administration, this problem was not even addressed.

Reagan administration, amnesty was granted yet laws were not enforced.

GH administration, again the problem was not addressed.

Clinton administration, not only was the problem not addressed, laws not enforced but the flood gates were opened and there was a Democrat rush to register hordes of new voters that should not have been allowed.

This administration is at minimum addressing the situation and at maximum, may very well do something we are comfortable with.

I do not disagree with you. It is high time our voices are loud and clear on the issue of illegal foreign nationals within our borders. It is high time we resolve this issue with enforcement of laws, maximum border security and plans that work well into the future.

But to call the President a con artist before he has spoken. Give me a break. This seems to be the first President in my lifetime that is really trying to reasonably address the issues.

We've seen trial balloons on a guest worker program. I want better details because, yes, I do not like what I've seen so far. And I am highly agitated everytime I hear this, " jobs Americans won't do" crap. And it is crap. I agree I would like the President to quit uttering this piece of NONSENSE.

But we are seeing some steps in the right direction due to our being vociferous. Enforcement of laws against employers. Better attempts to catch illegals. The idea of putting NG on the border.

But in the meantime, threatening to surrender the rein of power to DEMS is suicidal at best and plain stupid. Calling the President names and a con is childish. And acting like the nation is doomed if we don't get everything we want on the illegal foreign nationals problem is not sensible.

This is an issue. A major issue. But does anyone here really think the Dems will do better, hell no, they are the ones trying to register illegal voters. They are the ones who want Communist sympathizing judges on the Supreme Court. The Dems are the ones that want to retreat from the Jihad War and give aid and comfort to the enemy. The Dems want your money and an endless supply of it if they can.

I fully agree this is a time to stand firm on illegal foreign nationals in our nation. Our voices must be heard. We have to send a message that we will find the leaders that can make this nation strong going forward.

But we DO have a pretty darn good President for the most part. Of course we all have disagreements, but we are doing a heck of a lot better than during the Clinton presidency.

So lets hear what the President says Monday before we start calling him names and and a con. Lets make sure if you are unhappy we work very hard in the primaries of each state to send up candidates that will enforce our borders and beat a Dem challenger.

And this November, what candidates we have, lets show them support both to beat the far worst scenario of having Dems in power and also because they are on our team therefore we can deliver hard pressure if they do not enforce the border, lower Federal and State and local spending, defend the nation in the Jihad War and fight hard that our judiciary represents a free and Capitalist America and not drained by the followers of Marx or the lovers of Socialist Europe.

There are a lot of issues including the illegal foreign national debate that we must start getting loud on. Defense, spending, judiciary, taxation; lets work together on all of these because with the Dems we will get NOTHING, ZERO, ZILCH of what we want.

103 posted on 05/13/2006 4:20:27 PM PDT by A message
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