Bush Losing the Immigration Debate

War to Mobilize Democracy, LLC ^ | May 13, 2006 | Andrew L. Jaffee

[Tamayo]

Round them up and send them home!
Fine the employeers $5,000 per illegal they get caught hiring.
Seal the border.

[sinkspur]

Another poll shows support for the House's tough and very sensible immigration legislation, HR 4437:

...69 percent said it was a good or very good idea when told it tries to make illegals go home by fortifying the border, forcing employer verification, and encouraging greater cooperation with local law enforcement while not increasing legal immigration; 27 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

The CIS poll, taken by Zogby International, is the ONLY poll that shows support for deportation without increasing legal immigration. It is a flawed poll, sponsored by an organization that is opposed to ALL immigration.

CIS got the result it wanted.

[zipp_city]

As far as a Texan, Bush is no Sam Houston.

[sinkspur]

It is time for the U.S. to criminalize illegal immigration as a felony offense.

Even the House is now opposed to this.

[lonedawg]

You got it! Ending this problem is as easy as removing the incentive for hiring!

[forty_years]

Do you have any statistical basis for your assertion?

[A message]

Lets hear what the Presidant has to say Monday before shooting off with con job and all that crud.

This article had everything in but calling the President El.. or Jor...

Let us be clear of mind, the rhetoric is blinding and not constructive.

[ChicagoConservative27]

68% believe we where better off before Bush? I don't buy it.

[Joe Boucher]

Sounds good to me, and if Mr. Bush tries to b.s. us with some amnesty pablum b.s. the republican party is in trouble.

[Cacique]

It's not immigration, it's migration. The indigenous peoples of this continent do not recognize borders invented by white Europeans. They are simply reclaiming their lands. That is the argument on the other side.

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[sinkspur]

Check the other polls. None of them show 69% support for deportation. And none of them support no increase in legal immigration.

CIS is the "research" arm of FAIR, a virulenty anti-immigration organization.

[A message]

68% believe we where better off before Bush? I don't buy it.

I don't buy it either. No Sale!!

[forty_years]

C'mon, Zogby defines political correctness. There's nothing "virulent" about FAIR -- they are acting responsibly to prevent the devastation of the U.S. Nuff said. Done.

[cardinal4]

Let us be clear of mind, the rhetoric is blinding and not constructive.

Concur. The kneejerk Bush hatred is really getting old..

[puppypusher]

We also need to open outdoor prison camps to hold these illegals until such time that they can be removed back to their country of origin.

[ncountylee]

It is time for the U.S. to criminalize illegal immigration as a felony offense.

Even the House is now opposed to this.

If an illegal is working now, chances are the he/she has committed a felony by using false ID or making false statements on withholding forms.

[Arizona Carolyn]

The GOP was never in favor of making it a felony, the dems added it in and it was a sticking point -- and, it turns out, was (and is) a sharp stick they wanted to stick in the GOP's eye.

[calex59]

If you think the majority of American voters support amensty you simply have your head up your a**. You are a known open borders advocate so what you say about this poll is useless because you will believe what you want. The truth is, the majority of Americans want the borders closed, no amnesty, punishment for the law breakers, both the empoyers and the employess, but especially the employers.

We know this will force ILLEGALS to go home. They need to start making their own countries solve their problems and quit trying to make the US the nanny of the world. We can't take care of everyone and we have no repsonibility to do so either.

[sinkspur]

Actually, the GOP put the original felony language in HR 4437, then tried to take it out, but the Dems voted with some Republicans to keep it in to use as a club on the GOP.