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To: spanalot
Are you saying that the Russians do not now own the pipeline is Belorus?

No, neither Gazprom or the Russians own the pipeline.

and what "market " price are you talking about? Russia pays only $50 for it in Kazakstan and when Ukraine did the same thing, Putin shut off the valve.

Firstly, $50 was the old subsidized price CIS coutrys paid. Previously, Ukraine bought gas from both Turkmenistan and Russia at a price of $50 per 1,000 cubic metres. However, that does not cover production cost, and does not include transit. To expect gas for $50 today would be INSANE.
Secondly, Turkestan has decided to raise the price of gas to the it sells to $85 in the second half of 2006, which will increase the Ukraine's price.
Thirdly, Gazprom sells it's gas to the Ukraine for $230, but also allows gas from Turkestan to be transported and mixed in giving a delivered price to the Ukraine of $95 total.
Finally, you don't have a clue what you are discussing.
79 posted on 05/14/2006 4:51:35 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: GarySpFc

"However, that does not cover production cost, and does not include transit. To expect gas for $50 today would be INSANE."

The only thing insane is your analysis - If the Russians are buying Turkman gas for $50, and paying Ukraine $2 for transport to Europe where the "market price" is $250, why do you justify Putins shutting off the valve when Ukraine did the same thing with turkmanistan?


87 posted on 05/14/2006 8:17:47 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: GarySpFc
No, neither Gazprom or the Russians own the pipeline..

Well well well, at last you admit that you were lying all the time when you always claimed that Belarus is not subsidized because they gave to Gazprom their pipeline. Better late than never...

104 posted on 05/14/2006 10:02:38 AM PDT by Lukasz
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