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1 posted on 05/12/2006 3:03:59 PM PDT by fgoodwin
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This guy is gay, right?

Let him do his own cruising ~ the Boy Scouts have no business lending him a hand, or anything else for that matter.

29 posted on 05/12/2006 4:11:03 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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ugh.
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32 posted on 05/12/2006 4:52:38 PM PDT by darkangel82
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Our Constitution, which reflects our democratic values, does not require a belief in God, nor does it allow discrimination based on sexual preference.

Also, it tells us that abortion is the most basic of human rights. What a great document it is!

34 posted on 05/12/2006 5:07:35 PM PDT by madprof98
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Our Constitution, which reflects our democratic values, does not require a belief in God, nor does it allow discrimination based on sexual preference.

A sexual "preference" implies inherently that discrimination exists -ALL discriminate -some choose normality while others choose abnormality. Why do leftists insist that preferences chosen such as colon exploration be the unquestioned sacred cows of sexual preferences?

Society has always discriminated in regard to sexual preferences by rewarding privilege to heterosexual procreatively positive married couples' sexual preferences while discouraging, sanctioning, and or not rewarding unhealthy, unmarried and or procreatively negative sexual preferences.

35 posted on 05/12/2006 5:37:11 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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Is today’s Boy Scout intolerance an echo of the past?

Hmmm.. -today’s Boy Scout "intolerance" is a burr under the saddle of the leftists' sacred cow village rodeo of delusion...

Embracing and promoting the homosexual disorder is embracing and promoting a morally corrupt self-destructive procreative dead end -a future of darkness...

36 posted on 05/12/2006 5:52:09 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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Jeal explains that Baden-Powell was not alone in his admiration for Italian dictator Benito Mussolini and that his feelings were based on his hatred for communism. Baden-Powell used the swastika symbol on his “Thank You” badges that were given to individuals who had helped the Boy Scout movement. According to Rosenthal, he used the swastika because he was a Nazi sympathizer, while Jeal blames it on Baden-Powell’s naiveté and his stubborn claim that the symbol meant “good luck” in Sanskrit. Both authors agree that Baden-Powell was deeply troubled by what he saw as lack of physical courage and military resolve.

100 years ago, there were no Nazis. The swastika was used by several groups around the world. Including American Indians, where it was indeed a "Good Luck" symbol. It was also used on the patch of the 45th Infantry Division composed of units from the Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico and Arizona National Guards. When Hitler stole the symbol, the division replaced it with the Thunderbird

The redesignated 45th Infantry Brigade still proudly wears the Thunderbird patch.

You can check out the history of the Swastika on Symbols.com It goes back at least to the ancient Sumerians. But was also associated with Buddha in India, China and Japan. (Sanskrit is the ancient language of India, upon which most modern Indian languages/dialects are based)

37 posted on 05/12/2006 5:56:27 PM PDT by El Gato
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Maybe the time has come for the Scout oath to represent not the values of the early 1900s, but to reflect the modern democratic values of our nation that are based on a system of inclusion.

Maybe leftist secular humanists should stop using words like "diversity" and "inclusion" to confuse people and force their values on the rest of us.

46 posted on 05/12/2006 7:52:05 PM PDT by SaveTheChief ("This one goes to eleven.")
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Democratic values?? Democrats have no values, or character for that matter. (Most of them)

Never have I seen a group of people work so hard to bring down such a worthy and dignified organization. Nice try, but I would rather see them uphold their values and operate solely on donation if necessary!


50 posted on 05/12/2006 8:19:29 PM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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The Boy Scouts quit working along about the same time boys quit becoming men.


54 posted on 05/12/2006 8:57:54 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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Hannah Naiditch isn't anti-racist, like all liberals she's anti-white. I don't care what Baden-Powell did, it doesn't hold a candle to the mass-murder, mass-rape, ethnic cleansing and other crimes sponsored by the left on the streets of America since the 1960s. I won't take a lecture on racism or fascism from a war criminal.
57 posted on 05/12/2006 10:16:09 PM PDT by jordan8
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Hannah Naiditch was on the board of the Southern California ACLU. ACLU Link
62 posted on 05/13/2006 5:09:38 AM PDT by bulldozer
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The attack on the Boy Scounts continues. The BS are a proxy for all things masculine and religious in America.

The critique of the founder is revisionist tripe and a favorite tool of marxists.

63 posted on 05/13/2006 5:18:56 AM PDT by Pietro
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Maybe the time has come for the Scout oath to represent not the values of the early 1900s, but to reflect the modern democratic values of our nation that are based on a system of inclusion.

Her real argument is that Boy Scouts should accept the values of 2% of the population as normal for the other 98%. In addition, any recognition of the values for the other 98% should be completely disregarded and discarded in favor of the perversions of the 2%. Finally, anything even remotely standing in the way of complete access of homosexuals to innocent Boy Scouts should be eliminated. As an added plus, legislation requiring any Boy Scout members or potential recruits to be dropped off in the care of a willing homosexual for "weekend indoctrination camp" should be passed immediately. If the parents of said Scout protest, they should be shot, with the Boy Scout becoming the property of...err...placed in custody...of the homosexual.

There I said it for her, and it didn't take more than a single paragraph.

65 posted on 05/13/2006 5:43:23 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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I'd like to know where in the constitution it decries discrimination against sexual preference.


67 posted on 05/13/2006 6:52:45 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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I think it's a Two-Fer.


73 posted on 05/13/2006 1:45:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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Is she going to do an article on the beliefs of the founder of Planned Parenthood?


74 posted on 05/13/2006 1:55:59 PM PDT by Flyer (.)
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What's the big deal? Conservatives have their Scouting program and Liberals don't have to pay for it. There are plenty of other more inclusive clubs and organizations for kids to join these days. Seems like everyone should be happy with this arrangement.


78 posted on 05/13/2006 2:37:07 PM PDT by Gerfang
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No human being was ever perfect - including Lord Robert Baden-Powell. Like the Founding Fathers - who were also imperfect and subject to almost all the faults and foibles that Ms. Naiditch levels at Baden-Powell - he created something greater than himself. Actually the Boy Scouts of America has as much to do with Ernest Thompson Seton and William D. Boyce as it does with Baden-Powell.

Many of the things that Ms. Naiditch criticizes are precisely the things that American boys need, a respect for the military and personal discipline, a love for their country (which I am sure she would call "fascism"), and respect for authority and obedience to the law and to parents. Ms. Naiditch believes that these things are not "democratic".

And since WHEN did the Constitution forbid discrimination based on sexual preference??? Find me THAT ONE in the U.S. Constitution.

The fact that the timeless values of the Boy Scouts have not changed is why America needs scouting so desperately. The BSA will continue its mission despite Ms. Naiditch and her ilk. These trials have not hurt the BSA, they have only clarified our ideals, purified our membership, and strengthened our resolve.


82 posted on 05/16/2006 4:45:39 PM PDT by CloseEncounters
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