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The teacher's union will be happy, this judge just reinforced California's institutionalized stupidity.
1 posted on 05/12/2006 2:28:53 PM PDT by SmithL
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I am not gonna bother reading his ruling.

So I'll ask someone who has ... WHAT was his rationale?????


2 posted on 05/12/2006 2:30:48 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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Public education is a joke. What's the point?


3 posted on 05/12/2006 2:31:03 PM PDT by RedBeaconNY (If you want to know what God thinks of money, look at the people He gave it to.)
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California was,after all,the birthplace of "if it feels good,do it".


4 posted on 05/12/2006 2:31:48 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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Thereby devaluing the diploma for all graduates.


5 posted on 05/12/2006 2:32:52 PM PDT by sunset212
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Heard this on the radio. One of the complaints was that the English test discriminated against those who had poor English skills.

I can't take much more of this!

6 posted on 05/12/2006 2:35:26 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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I'm waiting for some parents to sue the State of South Carolina over their PACT test (given to 3-8 graders to gauge skill level, progress, etc), but not because of the discrepancy between schools from poor districts and wealthy ones. The State of SC in its' infinite wisdom decreed that children with severe learning disabilities and various degrees of mental retardation have to take this test and pass on grade level. That may not sound like much to most people, but try getting a child who has mental retardation and is just realizing the link between letters and sounds to read a passage written on a 3rd grade level and then answer questions about what they just read. Or requiring them to write a composition when they have just mastered the art of writing their names (first only).


10 posted on 05/12/2006 2:50:51 PM PDT by MissEdie
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From what I've read this is a dumbed-down exam which can be repeatedly taken and requires only a 50% passing score!

There will be two immediate consequences: (1) the diploma will be virtually worthless and mean nothing to prospective employers and (2) it will assure that these academic "fakers" will never succeed in the competitive jobs and employment marketplaces.

These people are apparently too obtuse to realize they're doing these pupils NO favor by eliminating all standards. I've also heard that this is another result of the illegal invasion that's swamping and bankrupting many school districts.


11 posted on 05/12/2006 2:53:17 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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Democracy requires an educated populace -- apparently California courts disagree. When you combine this with the lies and disinformation propagated by the MSM; one has to wonder whether the U.S. will continue to be capable of self-determination.

{Flame away, I meant to be provocative -- just remember that, if the U.S. government doesn't get things right, the world is headed for the toilet.}
14 posted on 05/12/2006 2:56:24 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Bloody hell! This state needs to be taken out to the wood shed!


16 posted on 05/12/2006 3:08:30 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Don't use illegals: HIREPATRIOTS.COM)
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Judge strikes down exit exam ...

...And helps expand the Democrat base.

20 posted on 05/12/2006 3:31:05 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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State Superintendent of Schools Jack O'Connell is expected to appeal the injunction immediately.

Just refuse to grant them diplomas and bar them from attendence at graduation then.

I cannot believe that americans can be this stupid. We put a man on the moon for God's sake and now this ??

23 posted on 05/12/2006 3:35:51 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (The social contract is breaking down.)
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The teacher's union will be happy, this judge just reinforced California's institutionalized stupidity.

Although I don't belong to a union, I am a teacher, and I think this was an idiotic ruling.

If students can't master the basic skills required for a high school diploma, they shouldn't receive one.

24 posted on 05/12/2006 3:36:11 PM PDT by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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Another example how to erode the middle class. In a few years we will be just like Mexico in so many ways.


28 posted on 05/12/2006 3:39:15 PM PDT by devane617 (The truth, not politics, is right for our beautiful America.)
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The teacher's union will be happy, this judge just reinforced California's institutionalized stupidity.


Does this mean 47,000 kids will not graduate? This seems pretty excessive. I guess I would have them repeat if that is the rule, but talk about overcrowding. What happens if they fail next year with an additional 47,000 kids. This could just go crazy. I am not so concerned with this except the special ed kids...do they really have to pass a test and what will this prove for them? I mean are they alright to get a job? fuction? I guess I don't understand their perameters of what is special education.


36 posted on 05/12/2006 3:53:04 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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Just a reminder, over 50% of the yearly budget for the State of California is used for "education". We should have the best schools in the world. We don't.

The reason is simple. There is a disconnect between those paying the bill and those providing the service.

The reason for this is because the courts thought they knew better then the local community and started messing with the way schools are financed.

And now, we are at a point where many "graduate" without being able to read or write, and in the wisdom of the court the fix is to pretend it is not so.

Our judges have way too much power.


43 posted on 05/12/2006 4:02:49 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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Superior Court Judge Robert Freedman ruled that students who earn enough credits may receive a diploma, regardless of their performance on the test.

Can we throw out the state bar exam and grant attorney's licenses to all who simply have enough law school credits regardless of their performance on the bar exam? Huh Judge? What about that?

46 posted on 05/12/2006 4:08:48 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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An Alameda County judge granted the wish of 47,000 high school seniors Friday after abolishing the exit exam as a graduation requirement this year.

Thereby abolishing the lesson that hard work, personal achievement, and responsible behavior are worthy objectives that guide students along the path of success.

With the many, many horrible influences that children face nowadays, the notion that in order to succeed, they must take responsibility to master some (pathetically simple) elements of mathematics and English language is crucial.

It's a common theme, I'm afraid.

Achievers must be punished.

Karl Marx would be proud of this (alleged) judge.

48 posted on 05/12/2006 4:11:04 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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58 posted on 05/12/2006 5:03:24 PM PDT by Peelod (Decentia est fragilis. Curatoribus validis indiget.)
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When did high school graduation become a right? By definition, a diploma is a certificate of discrimination: it purports to identify those who are educated to a given level from those who are not. If HS diplomas cannot be issued on a discriminatory basis, then I want one issued to my eight year old right now.


62 posted on 05/12/2006 6:18:29 PM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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Yet another leftist judge legislating from the bench. How quaint.


71 posted on 05/13/2006 6:11:14 AM PDT by Hoodat ( Silly Dems, AYBABTU.)
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