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BUSH TO ADDRESS NATION AT 8PM MONDAY 5/15/06
Fox News | 5/12/06

Posted on 05/12/2006 6:31:09 AM PDT by Severa

Just announced on Fox News that President Bush is to address the nation at 8pm Eastern on Monday May 15th to speak on immigration.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bohica; bush; everybodycomein; givesmexicolandback; kneejerkish; stupidkeywords; welcomeoneandall
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To: Stentor

Yeah, these kinds of threads are about as useless as toothpicks in an oyster bar. But WTH, nothing is more fun than predicting future events. Then watching the opposite unfold before your very own eyes.


161 posted on 05/12/2006 7:22:53 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual...if they sense scorn or ridicule, they'll flee)
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To: TomGuy

Amen to this. The only thing that will come from any new legislation will be millions of newly minted mexican americans citizens and millions of new illegal entries over the years. No matter what laws are passed to stop illegal border crossings, this president and most of those who would be president will not enforce those new laws any more than they have enforced existing laws. We need a revolution at the grass roots level in the republican party.


162 posted on 05/12/2006 7:22:53 AM PDT by brydic1
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To: JFC

I have seen posts from Freepers that have been here for years! Could it be a conspiracy, did they join years ago and lurked and then they moved it for the kill and hate. If I hated someone that much I would not be posting at all. DU must be very dull!


163 posted on 05/12/2006 7:22:59 AM PDT by angcat (("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB))
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To: notes2005
If this is truly just to push the McCain/Kennedy approach, it is a monumental political error.

Why go on national television to rub it in the face of an already roiled conservative base?

I could be wrong ... but I think the President is smarter than that.

164 posted on 05/12/2006 7:23:11 AM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
"out of Touch" and "Brain Dead" can be used interchangeably...
165 posted on 05/12/2006 7:23:11 AM PDT by ARA
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To: ContemptofCourt
Will he be speaking english or spanish (or spanglish)?

He'll have that Cinco de Mayo chick on his lap translating for him.

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166 posted on 05/12/2006 7:23:18 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Severa
This is Karl's muddy-the-waters strategy. I will appear to be strong on security and border enforcement and parrot the liberal li(n)e on amnesty, couched in language about fairness and America as an immigrant country. Look for the usual amnesty code words written in Karl's best prose.

However, if this pig doesn't fly with the idiots voters, then the House will stand firm on their enforcement-only legislation and the Senate will quietly back down on their backroom deals for amnesty until 2007.
168 posted on 05/12/2006 7:23:45 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Cagey; Dane
Good morning.
"Dane, you should find that emotion and stop with the robotic "kneejerk" word you use in every third post."

You might say it is getting to be a knee jerk response on Dane's part to anything related to illegal immigration.

Michael Frazier
169 posted on 05/12/2006 7:24:14 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: claudiustg

I opposed Harriet when most on this board. Most were in favor of that nomination. But none of us suggested that the POTUS was brain dead or stupid or a traitor to the base. I have real questions about this guest worker program, but it is really a bit absurd to throw him under the bus just because he doesn't tow the line on this one issue.


170 posted on 05/12/2006 7:24:30 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: TomGuy
If they would enforce the existing laws, they wouldn't need new ones.

They can't enforce the existing laws because the existing laws don't contain adequate mechanisms for enforcement. The laws must be changed.

You cannot effectively enforce immigration laws unless you have a working identification system. The current system makes it much too easy for immigrants to forge required documents and for employers to plead ignorance. We must have an electronic swipe-card I.D. with a central database, like a credit card. One swipe, and an employer or INS agent knows instantly whether or not someone is here legally. And that system needs to be interconnected with the IRS so that only those immigrants employed by employers who are paying withholding taxes under that immigrant I.D. number will have valid I.D.'s.

Not working? I.D. says you are not here legally. Getting paid under the table? I.D. says you are not here legally. Limited social benefits to those immigrants who are permitted to stay, no anchor babies or anchor families, and a secure border, etc. That type of program requires changes to the law, and some compromise to get there. But if you get a workable, non-forgeable I.D. system with instant verification, you will have gone a long way towards addressing the problem.

171 posted on 05/12/2006 7:25:17 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: claudiustg

Yea?

So what's the status of H.R.4437 Sec. 1002 ?

I haven't heard.


172 posted on 05/12/2006 7:26:17 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Severa
Unless he proclaims that the federal government is actually going to start enforcing immigration law and begin a serious defense of our borders, it will be wasted airtime.

My money is on wasted airtime.

173 posted on 05/12/2006 7:26:21 AM PDT by SaveTheChief ("This one goes to eleven.")
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To: kjam22
You know what is interesting about this whole thing is that Ross Perot was wrong. He said with NAFTA we'd have the "giant sucking sound" as all of the jobs went to mexico. Instead we've had the giant "rushing sound" as all of the illegal immigrants rushed into our country.

No, actually the "giant sucking sound" is all our money being sucked into Mexico, our healthcare, and education systems because of the illegals.
174 posted on 05/12/2006 7:26:22 AM PDT by GreyWolf (My $.02)
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To: yellowdoghunter

YOU ARE SO RIGHT. THAT Harriet Miers NOMINATION REALLY ENDANGERED THE REPUBLIC. DON'T LET ANYONE FORGET IT. /sarc


175 posted on 05/12/2006 7:26:37 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: TomGuy
The problem has been, is, and will continue to be --- enforcement, or lack thereof.

If they would enforce the existing laws, they wouldn't need new ones.

...Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing...

176 posted on 05/12/2006 7:26:38 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Cagey
... robotic "kneejerk" word you use in every third post. It's getting old and silly.

You know, I don't like Dane very much, and whenever I'm on the same side of an issue as he I force myself to re-examine my opinion.

That said; its really a pisser when the same ol' robotic response is correct, ain't it? Kinda rubs your face into the whole 'emotion' thing. I understand how you complain.

177 posted on 05/12/2006 7:27:24 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Severa

178 posted on 05/12/2006 7:28:31 AM PDT by evets (Snakes on a plane...)
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To: Glenn; Dane
kneejerkish: Saying anything that does not reflect the party line as defined by the Lemmings.

I agree--the Bush haters on this thread sure are taking the party line on this. They're not even waiting for him to speak to denounce what he hasn't said yet. Nice to see you're onto them. ;)

179 posted on 05/12/2006 7:30:20 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Can't wait for the Dems to close that border and are approving SCOTUS nominees!)
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To: ContemptofCourt

Will he be speaking english or spanish (or spanglish)?

That has to be the funniest line I have heard in days. Too funny.

I spent time yesterday collecting signatures for the Colorado ballot initiative to end taxpayer-funded services for illegal immigrants, and I can attest to the fact that people are very angry with Bush and Congress for allowing our country to be overrun by invaders from the south.

I had many people sign the petition, and then tell me that they voted for Bush both times, but feel betrayed, since Bush no longer supports U.S. citizens when it comes to the illegal immigration issues.

Regardless of what the Bush bots on this forum like to tell us, the anger with Bush and Congress is real and widespread.

My guess is that Bush's speech on Monday night will be layered with "Jobs Americans won't do" and will offer nothing to the mother I spoke to yesterday that has no clue how she is going to afford the high in-state-tuition for her second child (yet illegal immigrants want in-state tuition), or to the mother that took her little boy to the emergency room after a mishap and had to wait six hours while the illegal immigrants were seen for minor problems.

Unless Bush does a complete turn-around and advocates closing the borders now and enforcing the law, average Americans are only going to become more angry.


180 posted on 05/12/2006 7:30:21 AM PDT by digerati
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