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Victor Davis Hanson: In the Eye of the Beholder. Imagine if we’d reported on WWII the way we do now
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| May 12, 2006
| Victor Davis Hanson
Posted on 05/12/2006 4:41:46 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik
Fantastic analysis as usual. Thanks for the ping.
To: Tolik
Bravo. I've been saying this from the get-go. Our MSM today is disloyal; plagued by institutionalized anti-Americanism. It's to the point that we may never be able to wage, let alone win, any war, especially during a Republican presidency. The press won't allow it. I hate to be such a downer, but I often hear myself thinking, "America doesn't deserve itself anymore."
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posted on
05/12/2006 7:10:11 AM PDT
by
zook
To: Tolik
This is the way the DUmmies see WW2...
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posted on
05/12/2006 7:15:39 AM PDT
by
Edgerunner
(Proud to be an infidel)
To: Tolik
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posted on
05/12/2006 7:16:56 AM PDT
by
MEG33
(GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
To: Tolik
If one were to use this anti-NSA logic put forth by Dems, the US govt. should have gotten a court order during WWII before it could intercept those Nazi submarines which came inside US terratorial waters off NJ and NY.
After all, we shouldn't want to violate the Nazi combatants' rights now, do we?
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posted on
05/12/2006 7:35:55 AM PDT
by
Edit35
To: Tolik
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posted on
05/12/2006 7:37:35 AM PDT
by
mtntop3
To: Tolik
Imagine if wed reported on WWII the way we do nowImagine if Vic got back to his hack treatment of ancient history instead of incessant ramblings on something he has no clue about (of course he's not always that good on the ancient history either). Vic has made it evidently clear his treatment of historical fact outside of ancient history is questionable at best
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posted on
05/12/2006 7:41:15 AM PDT
by
billbears
(Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
To: billbears
To: Tolik
Hanson does another good one.
I've been thinking about things in these terms lately. It occurred to me the other day that, all things considered, The current War on Terror is actually going far better than World War II did. More victory, more decisive, fewer setbacks, and more continual progress. All with a dramatically lower rate of casualities, both in our forces and enemy civilian collateral losses.
While WWII was sometimes misreported to make things look better than they were, this war is being misreported the other way. There's a lesson here, yet to be complete. WWII sometimes went very badly, yet our Allied forces overcame those obstacles and eventually won the war. The War on Terror is going comparatively well, and the only real obstacle isn't the enemy... its the will of our own press to win. It remains to be seen which obstacle is the more impossible to overcome.
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posted on
05/12/2006 7:57:47 AM PDT
by
Ramius
(Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
To: Tolik
Tolik, my good FRiend........Thank You.
Lando
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posted on
05/12/2006 8:02:47 AM PDT
by
Lando Lincoln
(God bless Jared Linskens and his family.)
To: OXENinFLA; Tolik
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posted on
05/12/2006 8:19:42 AM PDT
by
Gucho
To: billbears
Vic has made it evidently clear his treatment of historical fact outside of ancient history is questionable at best
But what he says gets the patriotic juices flowing, so it doesn't matter what the facts are.
To: be4everfree
Are you going somewhere? Next, maybe Vic can regale us with a spot on WWI and the necessity of quelling dissent in that 'necessary' war...
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05/12/2006 8:28:18 AM PDT
by
billbears
(Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
To: Tolik
Thanks for the great post. Sadly, the current naysayers will only scoff.
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05/12/2006 8:31:04 AM PDT
by
jazusamo
(-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
To: Tolik
To: Tolik
Another great one by VDH.
Too bad he didn't include old Joe Kennedy as one of the "courageous mavericks."
To: Tolik
Next look for Coops recently completed and powerful American Gestapo this fall. Likewise, Jimmy Stewart remarked from the front lines above Germany (so unlike our president, who failed to serve in any of Americas past wars) that it is hard to know who the real enemy is after we have bombed the children of Hamburg. And Clark Gable is currently preparing a documentary on the Pacific theater, 12/7, that outlines the racist nature of that campaign that seeks the extermination of all the living Japanese we encounter. Our modern Hollywood is sooooooo creepy... Thanks for the ping.
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posted on
05/12/2006 9:24:07 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
("It's war, not a Quickie-Mart robbery gone bad..." -- Freeper hershey)
To: Tolik
This is way too heavy for most liberals to comprehend. Perhaps he should've written it with a 4th grader in mind like USA Today does.
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05/12/2006 9:26:18 AM PDT
by
kruelio
To: LS
...Meanwhile, we are no closer to victory over Japan. Instead, we are hearing of secret plans of invasion of the Japanese mainland slated for 1946 or even 1947 that may well make Okinawa seem like a cake walk and cost us a million casualties and perhaps involve a half-century of occupation. The extent of the current Kamikaze threat, once written off as the work of a bunch of dead-enders, was totally unforeseen, even though such suicidal zealots are in the process of inflicting the worst casualties on the U.S. Navy in its entire history. Worse still, our sources in the intelligence community speak of a billion-dollar boondoggle now underway in the American southwest. This improbable super-weapon (with the patently absurd name Manhattan Projectin the midst of a desert no less!) promises in one fell swoop to erase our mistakes and give us instant deliverance from our blundersno concern, of course, for the thousands of innocents who would be vaporized if such a monstrous fantasy bomb were ever actually to work.
ping
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posted on
05/12/2006 9:30:16 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
("It's war, not a Quickie-Mart robbery gone bad..." -- Freeper hershey)
To: 7thson
This was your division officer, right?
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posted on
05/12/2006 9:44:13 AM PDT
by
359Henrie
(We cannot deport 12 million can we? Si, se puede!)
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