[EEDUDE]

"Democrats were okay with Eschelon and Carnivore"

You are so right in this post.

I used to design cryptographic equipment for various "groups" in one of my former lives.

This has been going on for DECADES, and who knows how the Clinton/Gore machine used the info... maybe the same way they used FBI files?

Where was the outrage then?

We need good ELINT now more than we ever did during the cold war. The situation is MUCH more unpredictable.

These liberal idiots who "out" these intel tactics for political reasons will wind up with blood on their hands!

[Peach]

I'd love to see our Republican Congressmen hold a huge press conference about how the left thought domestic surveillance was just a grand idea after the OKC bombing, how the NYT wrote that Eschelon and Carnivore were terrific programs, etc.

It would have to be a huge press conference in order to force the MSM to cover it.

[spatso]

If you think of yourself as a conservative you are fundamentally opposed to any government intrusion into your affairs. If, on the other hand, the national security interest requires a unique power, as surely exists in this case, it should not be a back room government official who makes that decision. The Courts are given the power to restrain undo government intervention. The more I think of this matter, the more I am certain the President was badly advised and the FISA protocol should have been respected.