[demlosers]

There is no right to privacy in the United States unless if it violates the 4th Amendment - and this isn't it. I'll add...this is especially true for an employer employee relationship while the employee is on the job.

[ndt]

Did you get a chance to read 2709?

Regarding § 2709(b):

" The Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation... may

request the name, address, length of service, and local and long distance toll billing records of a person or entity if the Director ...certifies in writing to the wire or electronic communication service provider ... that the name, address, length of service, and toll billing records sought are relevant to an authorized investigation to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities, provided that such an investigation of a United States person is not conducted solely on the basis of activities protected by the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States"

Whoever wrote and passed this thing worded this way needs to be fired. This is begging for a SCOTUS challenge. You could interpret it as meaning...

• You are not allowed to target people based on first amendment speech but you can target somebody with other evidence.
• You are not allowed to target people based on first amendment speech but you can target target everybody. (the current case)
• You are not allowed to target people based on first amendment speech but you can target target people with green hair.
• You are not allowed to target people based on first amendment speech but you can target target people who own guns.

[RHINO369]

"There is no right to privacy in the United States unless if it violates the 4th Amendment - and this isn't it. I'll add...this is especially true for an employer employee relationship while the employee is on the job."

There is a right to privacy however when your using someones data network you can't possibly expect privacy. It would be like expecting privacy while using a translator, the translator has to hear what you say.

The problem becomes when the government gets involved. If the phone company owns the records, then its up to the phone companies. This makes sense because if you don't agree with this, pick a company who won't share records.

I don't think the government has any legal grounds for taking the data without permission or warrant.